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Mavios

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Post Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:31 am

Forced synth in update 1.5

Have anyone noticed that it's harder now to get a successful forces synth?

I tried
4 lv 2 all failed
5 l3 - one success
5 lv4 - all failed
2 lv1 one success

All keep updating
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schwag

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Post Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:38 am

Re: Force synth in update 1.5

I'm 0-13 since 1.4 with forcing level 4's, failed 3 since 1.5 update. Level 3 forced synth 1 success out of 5 since 1.5. I can't comment on level 4s since I've never actually successfully forced one but level 3 definitely seems to be failing more often.

It would be nice to get actual percentages for forced synths rather than just very high, high, low, very low.
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Mavios

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Post Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:44 am

Re: Force synth in update 1.5

schwag wrote:I'm 0-13 since 1.4 with forcing level 4's, failed 3 since 1.5 update. Level 3 forced synth 1 success out of 5 since 1.5. I can't comment on level 4s since I've never actually successfully forced one but level 3 definitely seems to be failing more often.

It would be nice to get actual percentages for forced synths rather than just very high, high, low, very low.


well I synth a lot of level 1 and 2 daily and usually for level 2 failing synth may be one every 4-5
I have 4 Lv 5 from forcing synth on update 1.4. to have 5 failed is common but failing the lower lvl is what is worrying me

Although haypi claimed they increase the drop rate of stones lv 1-3 but I doubt they increased it much as I don't find it much different than before and now they lowered success rate of forcing synth???
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schwag

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Post Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:01 am

Re: Forced synth in update 1.5

Hm idk about level 1 and 2 because I sell most lvl 1s and have level 2 synths in warehouse so I don't force them much. But I believe the increased drop rate for level 1-3 stones was only for the Laputa stones, power volley and quick shot. Decreasing the success rate of forced synths would suck if it's true, it would take forever to build up to level 5 stones waiting for all those synth stones.


Update: just tried 5 level 1 synths, 2 out of 5 success.
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Mavios

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Post Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:25 am

Re: Forced synth in update 1.5

schwag wrote:Hm idk about level 1 and 2 because I sell most lvl 1s and have level 2 synths in warehouse so I don't force them much. But I believe the increased drop rate for level 1-3 stones was only for the Laputa stones, power volley and quick shot. Decreasing the success rate of forced synths would suck if it's true, it would take forever to build up to level 5 stones waiting for all those synth stones.


Update: just tried 5 level 1 synths, 2 out of 5 success.


no it's not only laputa stones, have a look

5.Improved the drop probability of lvl1,lvl2 and lvl3magic stone http://www.haypi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=508&t=16242
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PS: the in game help section shows the magic stones as attk mana def etc
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schwag

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Post Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:43 am

Re: Forced synth in update 1.5

Ah ok, I thought magic stones were just the 8th slot stones. You're right then I haven't noticed a difference in stone drop rate either.
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Icecool121

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Post Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:04 am

Re: Force synth in update 1.5

schwag wrote:I'm 0-13 since 1.4 with forcing level 4's, failed 3 since 1.5 update. Level 3 forced synth 1 success out of 5 since 1.5. I can't comment on level 4s since I've never actually successfully forced one but level 3 definitely seems to be failing more often.

It would be nice to get actual percentages for forced synths rather than just very high, high, low, very low.


According to support, the chances of force synthing the following stones are:

Lvl 1- 80%
Lvl 2- 60%
Lvl 3- 40%
Lvl 4- 20%

Haven't tried synthing much in 1.5 but it seemed that synthing lvl 3s caused more fails near the end of 1.4 than the start/in 1.3.

I still have yet to obtain a single lvl 5 stone in my whole time playing so I sure hope this isn't the case.
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Bullhead81

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Post Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:27 pm

Re: Forced synth in update 1.5

So at 20% that would be 1 out of 5 basically. I know its 20% each time, i have tried 5 lv 4 forces(to make5) no success.
Lv3 to 4 6 tries 1 success
Lv2 to 3 10 try 4 success
1 to 2 20 try 15 success
Above is post 1.5 update

Out of i would estimate 60 try lv 4 to 5, i had 2 success. That was before 1.5 update.
I have not seen a lv 4 anything on wheel or from chest, except tree reward. Crystal chests are a joke now, with lv2 and 3 stuff, or energy crystals and 8 th slot stones, which i dont want.

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Bullhead81

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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:25 am

Re: Forced synth in update 1.5

Since my other post
Force synth
Lvl1 to 2 1 good, 2 fail
Lvl 2 to 3. 1 good
Lvl 3 to 4. 0 good, 4 fail

Too scared try for 5's again right now lol

I will be keeping notes from now on, we can compare next week

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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:43 pm

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