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Rector18

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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:23 am

My little rant

The following is something I typed up earlier today, but for some reason the forum wasn't working right on my device (you can throw that into what I say next) so I'm just pasting it in now, I apologize for the length and I know I didn't cover everything but I think I got the just of it, read it or not I'm sure most of you already know most of what I mention, so here goes:

First off I just wanna point out a couple things. Firstly this is all just an opinion though one shared by many. Secondly although most of this is primarily based on facts some is also speculation, but I feel it is a logical conclusion in those cases. Thirdly this is by no means meant to bash haypi or any of my fellow players, having said that most of you will probably be offended cause most of you have no sense of humor as I've noticed time and again, but enough of this let's get to it. The reason I'm writing this is simple: someone has to. Haypi games in general has, for many reasons, sucked. The ideas themselves are fascinating however, to me and many others, certain variables have caused these ideas to form something that is, simply put, a huge let down. Haypi kingdom was basically ruined by the addition of mine wars and the honor medals, causing a game based in war and pvp to be turned into a hugfest where there were more friends than enemies seeing who can get the best toilet seats (for those who never played HK you got honor points for capturing alliance mines and donating resources, more points means a better medal just like in dragon. In hk these medals looked like and were referred to as toilet seats). In haypi dragon a similar occurrence is already happening, much quicker than kingdom's downfall. To me, as im sure many will attest to, this really boils down to one basic problem, the same problem in hk as well. This problem is unfortunately the haypi staff (this is probably where I get banned but I really don't care at this point nor would it be a first...I'm a very opinionated individual). I point the finger towards them reluctantly as they are the ones who put a lot of effort into making and maintaining these games, however they continue to do the same mistakes, that being putting what they want in the games (which is understandable) instead of what the players want (which seems a bit smarter since we are the ones playing them). For example in hk the players wanted an option where alliance could be allies/neutral/enemy and have huge battles, instead they put in the mine wars which encouraged farming players causing them to rage quit as well as made the game boring as the large armies the vets became accustomed to were shrunk so that both alliance and personal armies could be fed. In dragon support ruined pvp in attempts to make it more fair by adding double turns, making it possible for even the weakest of players to beat the strongest of players in ways I consider pathetic and lucky rather than involving skill such as using double turn to break floors while the user may only have >100 health, to me those players did not earn or deserve a victory. In addition there are the dozens of glitches and bigs that have been around for multiple updates that most of us are sick of, mainly the dreaded ice rain glitch (shooting ice rain from below an enemy doing massive damage), lava's ability to shoot grenades through walls that are on top of the user, as well as dragons who are frozen being able to take damage by moves I know don't do damage to frozen dragons as of v1.5 (not tested in v1.5.2), times where a dragon received damage, survives, then dies right before the next turn starts (I think it's a glitch people control personally but it's happened to many people I've talked to and they say it's just a lag-like glitch, either way it sucks to think you survived but didn't), and finally the many bugs such as tapping pvp but being brought to boss rooms or vice versa (happened to me about a dozen times, anyone else?), or when you tap "collect" for daily gifts but it says you either have not completed the step or you just don't get the rewards. Finally there are the dragons themselves and I'll be brief here: Roco is an overpowered tank that can do more damage through walls than I can with direct hits, leshy corpse is the same stupid move and his vine is just as overpowered, and when used with double turns then it becomes more unfair and pisses me off more than small children (trust me that's saying something) lava and his grenade that can go through walls as well as his flame with annoying burn is also overpowered, crystal is fine except the rain glitch, Angelo is useless, naughty/shell is weak defensively but hiding in a corner is way too powerful, and devil is a cursing, health stealing overpowered pile of bs that should be permanently removed from all if gaming history. There are many other bugs, glitches, and chances at exploitation that I know and I'm sure some I don't but that's enough to show that although "support" tries, I don't fully think they try as hard as they could, or for that matter should, and that's where this little rant is coming from. I've dealt with support and experts who know less about this game then some noobs, and yet if you try to correct them you get muted or banned. Then there are others that are just oblivious. If memory serves I have a ss of me being muted for breaking no rules, just talking, apparently for spam. Spam is saying the same thing over and over haypi, I wasn't. Meanwhile the guy RIGHT BEFORE IT was threatening to hack my account and take it...he wasn't muted. That's what the players are tired of, especially people like me who buy coins. We put loads of money into this game, and yet we rarely see any of it being used to improve the games. Where is it all going? Don't get me wrong I know you have bills to pay, we all do, but seriously is any of it spent on improvements? Think what you want but it seems to me that all of this boils down to you, support, and that's about all I wanna say. Ban me, ignore me, remove the post, agree or disagree I don't care, but remember this: I'm not the only one who thinks this, some may be afraid to come out and say it some may not fully realize it as of yet but one dat that won't be the case, and when all of your players quit then I maybe then someone will finally see what needed to be changed, although by then it'll be too late.

-rector18 (HK s22, aka lord.rex/Rex s88, fish1011 HD s7)
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fish1011 (ios s7) - crystal level 35
fish1100 (android s29) - Roco level 39

Haypi kingdom
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Rector18-level 15
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Dekunutz

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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:58 am

Re: My little rant

Player " Zrtho " says 
" not to mention the instability of the game the annoying dc while in pvp/not in battle the impossible lvl 4 synth
The huge chance ( mostly lava ) to get frozen and lately i cant boss ( some other players too ) 
While trying to solo you get kicked or the app crashes :/ ". 
Also that he says " That lava should be stronger and it F'ing ridiculous it takes me over 10 tries to do 1-15 
The app crashes or suddenly i get kicked by room host " 

I posted on his behalf because i assume he doesnt have a account on the forum.
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Rector18

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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:15 am

Re: My little rant

Lava is already too strong. As for the dc that can be fixed too, just hit the menu button, close app, reopen after a couple seconds then hit resume. It usually works. Having said that you shouldn't need to go through all that to begin with. I remember the first couple of months this game was out. You couldn't even get into a match cause it always closed and although it's improved you'd think by now it would be fixed. I also didn't mention how in pvp room a player hits "ready" but it doesn't always register on the host's screen.
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fish1100 (android s29) - Roco level 39

Haypi kingdom
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Rector18-level 15
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Mavios

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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:32 am

Re: My little rant

Well,
It's not a perfect game (with all the bugs and glitches its far from it) I do agree that it needs more attention from support as I suspect haypi dragon has at least some 2500 active and semi active players (around a 100 each server)

What I don't agree with is changing dragons strength because it will affect many. If you think say Roco is very strong then why don't u switch to roco? You don't like roco? then that's your problem I guess. If you have invested in crystal then you should remember others invested in other dragons and just imagine how would you feel if crystal get nerfed big time? Changing any thing about any dragon is just a big mistake cuz people spend a lot of time to train and equip their dragons. and I think angelo is the only disadvantaged dragon now. all the rest depends more on the player strategy and skills and off course luck which is a big part of this game

As for PVP double turns, well now the game involves much more strategy into it than absolute power and skill. I think the best solution for this is to make two types of pvp. One with double turns enabled for those who want to play strategy and one without. Just like death mode and siege mode which has never been activated though they were there since update 1.2 I think. I enjoy playing two turns cuz I have a good understanding of it but I probably am a minority.
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RO-5ELiTE

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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:38 am

Re: My little rant

I agree with you on hk (Haypi Kingdom) list of arguments.
That is why i quit hk and now play HD (Haypi Dragons)

I have to say I love HD, and I believe Haypi has done everything in their power to improve the game.
Yes there are glitches/Bugs and issues but every game has them.

I recommend you make a suggestion post, listing all the suggestions and ideas you may have for haypi to look over ;)
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schwag

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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:51 am

Re: My little rant

(complains about all dragons, wait "crystal is fine") Are you a crystal user by any chance? Lol I'm not trying to call you out or anything, I just want to say that that is how everyone feels. Everyone thinks their main dragon is fine/too weak and that every other dragon is too overpowered. But I'd like to point out that you complained about almost every single dragon, which means that each is very strong and has specific advantages which in some cases is awesome and in other cases isn't a factor. My point is this: as long as there is a reason to complain about every dragon, it's fair.

You do make some valid points, a lot of things seem to be implemented purely for fiscal gains rather than player enjoyment. One example I can think of off the top of my head is the need to have 3 empty warehouse slots to open a box. I understand they did this to patch a glitch, but just one empty slot would have sufficed. They require 3 so that players will buy more warehouse slots.

On the flipside however, Haypi did listen to many complaints/suggestions with the addition of the new championship tournament activity. People wanted new pvp scoring so inactive players wouldn't be atop the leaderboards, they added monthly pvp score. The pvp tournaments being set up on the forum garnered much interest, they added the championship tournament activity. Finally, many people complained about the rarity of level 4 synth stones, so they made it a reward for the tournament's top ten players.

So while Haypi is definitely money hungry, they show that they do care about the players.
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Dekunutz

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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:01 am

Re: My little rant

Recently haypi has not met my needs with there so called " superior gaming experience "

The constant kicked out of your own room in pvp or boss room.
The pop up messages that i would get are very annoying.
Some of them would be common ones that anyone would get but i've been getting others that i ignore but now during version 1.4 till now i get frequently
I would get messages saying " Error code ( 5 random numbers would apear after code ) "
Than i would get this other one in chinese with 5 random numbers aswell.
My assumption the same message but in chinese.

App crashes/Disconnecting when i close the app and open it again.
I restart my phone but nothing is clearly working.

Must be the unfixed bugs that you havent checked up on or your so called " superior gaming experience "

I clearly dont under what you do with our money. That we spend on the game. As rector or a.k.a " fish1101 "
If you say you want to make our " Gaming experience better, best regards haypi ".
When you clearly barely even use our fellow players suggestions for the game.
I cannot count how many complaints i read in the chat about the game in my server (7) i assume other servers as well.

And these new bugs fixed just made more bugs.
I am possitive that YOU (talking to Haypi) fix minor bugs during your " server maintenance(s) "
Why make a new version of the app?
I would rather update the app until something new happens in the game.

Now i could clearly right 5 pages straight about all the things that have gone wrong after version 1.3 came out.
Countless glitches that i found.

To tell you the truth im on the chat more than i play the game.
Now let me say this again.
I've been reading complaints about this game since version 1.1.
I would say more but im sure my buddy rector would have more to say.

My rate right now for haypi dragon is .5 star.
This game not stable with any iPod/iPad/iPhone generation.
And for what Mavios said about about this game came out for android.
I fear that there gaming experience will be even worse.
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Rector18

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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:12 pm

Re: My little rant

Of course I'm a crystal user. She's the only one that doesn't have some super! little ability. The most that can happen is you get frozen but that gets you a double turn so it kinda makes up for it. Meanwhile you have lava and his burn doing upwards of 300 damage or leshy and Roco hitting through walls or devil using curse then hiding. I'm not saying change them I'm just saying that they suck and if we get any more dragons make them actually fair to use. And yea I get that everyone invests time in the dragons but that's the problem. I had Roco leshy and lava before I got my crystal and saw how pathetic they are to use which is why I didnt. Any Roco user here choose him for a reason BESIDES that he has a ton of health and can do way too much damage? And leshy user choose her besides the fact that they can exploit double turn with vine and can hit even with a complete miss? Are there anyone who wanted devIl cause he looked cool instead of how he can just steal all your health so it's impossible to defeat him? I chose crystal cause she doesn't have much health or defense. I chose her because I WANTED a challenge, not an easy win. Sadly no one else here wants that and now I can't do anything besides 1v1 because I don't want to play against 2 of any of those overpowered and cowardly dragons.

Then as for support "doing their best" I'm convinced they aren't. They can fix the copper chest glitch that has been around for what? A week or two? But not how the tree has been down for half a month for the 100th time or how a dc completely lags out the game and causes the other play to lose points when they quit the frozen game. Yea that's them at their best. How many times have we had no pvp, boss, and/or tree? I've lost count.

Finally youre telling me I should post in the suggestion forum? Look at what I said in the rant; haypi doesn't listen to have the stuff we say, and when they do they make an utter mess of it, case in point mine wars in haypi kingdom. How often are ideas taken from suggestions and implemented? I'm sure it happens but really how often? And most of these ideas are not only really good but not hard to integrate into the existing games. Face it guys they don't care.

Sorry about all the spelling mistakes here I'm half asleep still.
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fish1100 (android s29) - Roco level 39

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phillygrk

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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:38 pm

Re: My little rant

I have to chime in here, how is xstal not an powered cube demon? I am a level 40 devil with full level 5 stones and a well placed cube from a level 32+ xstal that crits will kill me without a turn, since xstal is faster than me. With all due respect, please do not claim to speak for the masses when you clearly have not been selected to represent us. I make no claim to be the voice of reason but if you want to complain, here are some valid ones...

1. Not in Battle/Kicked- I am sorry but I have seen servers housed in Syrian has stations perform more with greater stability.

2. Cannot buy VIP, this is infuriating to many people. Yet , the Laputa glitch is fixed.

3. Ice rain through floor is bs.

4. Service - We can fly to the moon but god forbid you request a name change or server change, that is impossible.

5. Beating the Devil or any other boss and being rewarded with a lousy lvl 1 attack stone or dragon experience is frustrating. Quite frankly the reward system is so lacking if I quit this game it will be the primary reason why that happens.

6. They need to upgrade their store so people can buy the items that they want. It is ridiculous to me that someone would spend $50 in coins for the opportunity to boss farm and maybe get the item they want.


7. The price of coins. Admittedly this is not a tremendous burden to me directly however, more people would pay to play if it was cheaper. I like that they reduced the cost of coin training and coining the cd but it was still to mild on the cd given the cost of coins. 750 coins should equal 750 boss fights, especially considering what garbage rewards are being handed out.

8. Give us a way o pvp within our own server. It's not that I don't love killing people from other servers but I miss the low level wars we had with ourselves on s9, this is not possible anymore bc as soon as we make a 4v4 room of low level dragons, a team of monsters like myself shows up to spoil the fun.

9. Raise the level cap required to pvp, it is a waste of my time and many others to slay a level 10 Roco that has nothing better to do. With the new merged pvp, I don't think any dragon below level 30 should be granted access, unless we get back the old style pvp where a choice existed between cross server pvp.

10. For the love of god, please fix it so new players can register to the forums through haypi dragon without needing to play some other same. My iq dropped ten points playing hk just to create an account here and have a voice. This problem has existed too long yet the invisible npcs only lasted about ten days, hmmm suspicious.

Anyway, there is certainly a lot of positives but to be brief I completely disagree with your argument about the dragons if they are all over powered but crystal then I am the queen of England. Each one has strengths and weaknesses and which is best depends on the map.
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Rector18

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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:36 pm

Re: My little rant

I have a level 34 crystal and I have never in my life killed a level 40 anything in 1 shot so please, don't insult my intelligence when you know nothing yourself. And please, tell me how crystal is overpowered? She has no defense, is faster than a devil but nothing else (that's devil fat ass' problem, not crystal's) and now, moving back to devil, since he isn't going to die in one turn that means he can now use either bat or curse with no power, get a double, and then use bat with full power and rage doing upwards of 2k+ damage killing the crystal and giving the devil back health it now doesn't need and if by some miracle that crystal is still alive then the curse will get her two turns later so tell me, what the hell are you talking about?

congratulations on the 60 year anniversary your majesty.
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fish1100 (android s29) - Roco level 39

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