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Mavios

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Post Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:50 am

Re: Crystal's Ice cube

JhongJil wrote:
Mavios wrote:
Bullhead81 wrote:I know ive said it before, and others have as well. Ice cube needs a NERF!
I shot 1 time in pvp, no mana used.. Crystal Ice cube 3 times I got froze 3 times in a row!!!!. then 4th shot I was dead. Crystal didnt use any mana either.

I couldnt stun anything or anyone 2 times in a row if I had to! My calculations on 37 roco were about 1 in 15 rocks stun, and 1 in 25 crackle stun. Not to mention the damage on cube is way higher than any rock.

Why do you think everyone is rapidly training Crystal? I refuse too. I built roco and lava, i will stick to them. If something doesnt get balanced out I just quit.


roco got 2.5 paws for attack while crystal got 3 so technically they should do more damage with ice cube than rock but it is not the case because Max ice cube gives 157% while roco got 172% on rock now if we compare lv 37 roco with lv 37 crystal with lv 5 attack stone

Crystal attack is 635 at level 37 (May be 1 point higher or lower)
so triple power with ice cube will do 1894 = 635*1.9*1.57 damage minus 2 X the target defense since it's actually a two hit attack (any number from 100-300) so it will actually do 1.3k-1.7K

while roco lv 37 attack is 541 and with rock will do 1768 = 541*1.9*1.72 minus the defense of the target so it will actually do between 1.5k-1.7k which seems to me better than crystal

Remeber in pvp those numbers will increase as the base attack is factored in pvp

now talking about stun, I just got stunned twice in a row by roco's rock today so I think you just being unlucky



you forgot to include xtal's higher chance of dealing crt damage because xtal has two shots but roco has only one


umm well though it's true crystal have a higher chance of getting one crt damage for one of the shots but it makes it having a lower chance of getting two crts simultaneously on both of the ice cube shots so it would deal less damage than roco's rock since it will have a higher chance of getting crt than ice cube getting a crt for each block but still less than getting crt for one block (does that make any sense?), so it's almost the same isn't it? besides this thing is all about luck
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JY808

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Post Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:28 am

Re: Crystal's Ice cube

Freeze rate is out of control I've been frozen twice in same match several times losing to much lower lvls. In the meantime I use lava and the burn on grenades is practically non existant
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Post Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:31 am

Re: Crystal's Ice cube

JY808 wrote:Freeze rate is out of control I've been frozen twice in same match several times losing to much lower lvls. In the meantime I use lava and the burn on grenades is practically non existant


I was froze 3 times in same match by a lvl30 come to find out. He did not use any power at all. 4k health gone! That was with 37 Roco with 99% orng stones.

The main gripe I have is with NPC, I can skip pvp if needed. NPC freeze you constantly. Also if there is a Flamer and you kill him first, Bet your butt the cuber will freeze you next shot. Happens 80% of the time. When your on tree and there is 2 cubers and a vine leshy. Hard to make it past 2nd round if your not hidden well.

I also use lava, he is 36 with all purple. The burn rate only ticks off about 200-250 on Devil. lasts 1 turn, If they decrease the turns of burn, then an increase in after burn is in order. Or a icrease in fireball/grenade original damage.

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Post Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:20 pm

Re: Crystal's Ice cube

Not this again... CRYSTAL is the one with all the POWER/ATTACK can NOT NERF crystal!
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Post Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:24 am

Re: Crystal's Ice cube

I got beat today by a level 25 crystal. I attacked first, and then every turn after he froze me and I did not get ANY doubles even though I used zero mana.

Took him 4 turns to take my hp down.


I dont think the damage needs to be reduced, I think that the freezing ratio and critical hit chances need to be altered.
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Post Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:21 am

Re: Crystal's Ice cube

I love Crystal <3
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Post Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:22 am

Re: Crystal's Ice cube

thLove wrote:I love Crystal <3


Who doesn't ;)
He has the POWER to defeat all!
Unstoppable and the all Powerful Crystal ;)
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Post Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:13 am

Re: Crystal's Ice cube

Lava shouldn't be able to get frozen because of the mass heat -.- but no need for logic :P
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