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phillygrk

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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:44 pm

Re: My little rant

Either your crystal is poorly equipped or you have bad luck as a double crit cube is devastating to any devil in haypi. Quite frankly, gear up level up or go play angry birds. It is a well known fact that a well equipped crystal is hard to beat in fact many players 2v2 with 2 crystals and agi 5 so they won't need skill to win. So to be blunt, by insulting me you only insult yourself, as it is transparent to those that read this thread which of us has their facts straight.

And let's get back to the devil, his defense is much worse than any other dragon (except eggshell), quite literally his defense is as effective as the detriot lions. His bat is one of the most difficult weapons to aim in the game and his attack is no where near as overpowered as cube, and he can't ice rain through floors. It is not unheard of to get killed in one hit as a devil if the opponent lands a crit with a roc , cube , vine.

If you are not winning more matches then you losing you may simply be running into many of the more experienced pvpers. At 34 most of the lvl 40 dragons that claim residency in pvp are full orange stones and know how to play so don't expect to win against them too often.
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Mavios

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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:39 pm

Re: My little rant

phillygrk wrote:Either your crystal is poorly equipped or you have bad luck as a double crit cube is devastating to any devil in haypi. Quite frankly, gear up level up or go play angry birds. It is a well known fact that a well equipped crystal is hard to beat in fact many players 2v2 with 2 crystals and agi 5 so they won't need skill to win. So to be blunt, by insulting me you only insult yourself, as it is transparent to those that read this thread which of us has their facts straight.

And let's get back to the devil, his defense is much worse than any other dragon (except eggshell), quite literally his defense is as effective as the detriot lions. His bat is one of the most difficult weapons to aim in the game and his attack is no where near as overpowered as cube, and he can't ice rain through floors. It is not unheard of to get killed in one hit as a devil if the opponent lands a crit with a roc , cube , vine.

If you are not winning more matches then you losing you may simply be running into many of the more experienced pvpers. At 34 most of the lvl 40 dragons that claim residency in pvp are full orange stones and know how to play so don't expect to win against them too often.


ok some things mentioned here are not accurate

First: egg shell crystal and roco got exactly the same amount of defense if they have same dragon level and same stones. I know egg shell shows less paws on the status but the numbers are the same

getting killed by crystal in one shot is common as crystal has the strongest attk between all dragons but probably you need attk stone lv 5 to be able to do that and I think that should be acceptable because after all crystal got the highest attack of them all

Crystal freeze and having highest agility of all dragons is a major advantage even with double turns. if you hit and freeze your opponent and the get double turn, they have lost a turn and after they play crystal can get double turn easily by matching the mana consumption of the opponent or even using less. And freezing probability is quite high, few days ago I used my lv35 crystal and I got to freeze my opponent 3 times in a row.

Although bat is hard to aim but it's not hard to master. Once it's mastered it's a devastated weapon that can hit hiding dragons easily.

Crystal users can win guaranteed matches in 2v2 3v3 4v4 matches if the are all crystals. The all start first and they can take out one or two opponents on the first turn even if they give double turns will still be not enough for the other team to even get close to wining. to back this statement, take a look at the monthly pvp for server 7. Out of the top 6 players who got more than 2000 points this month 5 of them are crystal users and if you look at the top 10 only 3 are not crystal users.

Fish, I think your rant should be more directed to their service and glitches and that's where I'm a 100% backing you
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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:59 pm

Re: My little rant

I never said crystal is weak, nor did I ever say she was strong. All I'm saying is she is the most fair of all the dragons. Burn vine and cure are 100% occurances with flame vine and curse. Freeze happens once every couple of cubes, hell I've gone entire matches without freezing. Plus it's easy to hide from a cube, pillars or a small overhang is all it takes and on most maps I don't even use the cube. As for the speed leshy is fastest of all the dragons and those users take advantage of double turns much more than crystal users. I only like freezing on first turn with no power to avoid double, after that I usually dc if I freeze someone so I don't need to deal with that bs. Crystal isn't as powerful as you're making her out to be. As for the continuing debate on the one hit kill, in case you haven't noticed any dragon can one hit kill with a critical hit. Roco's rock can do that and then some, not a sound argument
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phillygrk

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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:08 pm

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You said leshy is the fastest dragon, simply put this debate is over.
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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:16 pm

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Rector18 wrote:I never said crystal is weak, nor did I ever say she was strong. All I'm saying is she is the most fair of all the dragons. Burn vine and cure are 100% occurances with flame vine and curse. Freeze happens once every couple of cubes, hell I've gone entire matches without freezing. Plus it's easy to hide from a cube, pillars or a small overhang is all it takes and on most maps I don't even use the cube. As for the speed leshy is fastest of all the dragons and those users take advantage of double turns much more than crystal users. I only like freezing on first turn with no power to avoid double, after that I usually dc if I freeze someone so I don't need to deal with that bs. Crystal isn't as powerful as you're making her out to be. As for the continuing debate on the one hit kill, in case you haven't noticed any dragon can one hit kill with a critical hit. Roco's rock can do that and then some, not a sound argument


when philly was talking about speed he meant agility and crystal and egg shell got the highest agility that's why if they have lv 5 agility they start the match first

Well when you compare you need to compare to same level dragons, roco lv 40 can't kill crystal lv 40 in one shot with rock cuz at lv 40 crystal defense is high also roco rock can't kill devil lv 40 in one shot cuz devil hp is high but crystal can kill devil in one shot with cube provided they got lv 5 attk and gets two crits (that's 3844 of hp in one shot). if you are talking about your lv 34 got killed in one shot well that's a different story.

and crystal is powerful as I said before, take a look at our server 7 this month top 9, 7 of them are crystal users
Kimura for example have lv 40 crystal and lava but he probably wouldn't be at the top two if he used lava

My devil lv 40 with attk 5 and powers stone 5 can do around 2.5k damage with crit to crystal lv 40 which is not enough to kill it since crystal lv 40 got 2904 hp in pvp. roco's rock attack is a bit less than crystal so still can't kill crystal in one shot
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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:34 pm

Re: My little rant

Mavios I must disagree with you here. If I crit with full power my full orange devil will one shot any other dragon without exception even if they too have a full orange coat.
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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:38 pm

Re: My little rant

phillygrk wrote:Mavios I must disagree with you here. If I crit with full power my full orange devil will one shot any other dragon without exception even if they too have a full orange coat.


May be cause you have orange damage stone which I still don't have lol so your crt damage is higher than mine
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Post Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:50 am

Re: My little rant

Mav here's the thing according to Philly here a level 32 crystal can one shot a devil level 40, that's what got me going. Either way though this topic is about support being terrible, not the dragons. So let's go back to that ok?
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Post Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:08 am

Re: My little rant

Rector18 wrote:Mav here's the thing according to Philly here a level 32 crystal can one shot a devil level 40, that's what got me going. Either way though this topic is about support being terrible, not the dragons. So let's go back to that ok?


lol ok
we need the tree back
we need rewards
if you guys made translation mistake by saying give 100 coins instead of worth 100 coins may be you need to correct this mistake by actually giving 100 coins after all it cost haypi nothing and it's your mistake to begin with, or do a refund that would be good too. Plus 20000 silver an egg and a gold key isn't worth a 100 coins not even to noobs (gold key is 10 or 3000 honor so egg is like 8 coins or 2000 honor and 20000 coins is like 10 coins which is 30 coins at best)
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Post Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:18 am

Re: My little rant

Please haypi give a refund? That's funny. They can't do anything else right so they'll probably screw that up. I say we all sue them for false advertisement and just get our money back that way. And as for the tree I have a problem with that too. I got a letter saying I passed level 40 (I didn't, my best is 35) about a week ago after the tree had been down for a while. Now I don't mind it too much cause I got the level 4 chest out of it but I'm curious if anyone else got it too and why that didn't cause the achievement to be completed as well.

And on a side note my overpowered crystal lost to a Roco, a leshy (twice same leshy) and a devil in the 10 matches I played. I only froze twice and did not miss a shot. Although in my defense it's only because of the double turns and people exploiting them. But still I guess that means I suck even with 100% accuracy and all level 4 stones (except defense that's level 5) cause obviously the queen of England can't be wrong.
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