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schwag

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Post Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:20 am

Level 5 stones

Just wondering what everyone thinks is the best stone to get a level 5 first. I know a lot of people like defense but I think health or attack is better.
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Bullhead81

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Post Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:08 am

Re: Level 5 stones

This was posted awhile back, Check out what they suggest

viewtopic.php?f=504&t=15383

Good luck bud

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Post Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:16 am

Re: Level 5 stones

Bullhead81 wrote:This was posted awhile back, Check out what they suggest

viewtopic.php?f=504&t=15383

Good luck bud



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schwag

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Post Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:53 am

Re: Level 5 stones

Thank you both. I went with defense for devil :)
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Mavios

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Post Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:15 am

Re: Level 5 stones

Not trying to be rude on my first post but I think the OP was given the wrong advice and here is why:

My lvl 34 devil got 193 defense with lvl 4 stone
with lvl 5 it will get to 210 (193*1.6/1.47) which is only 17 points difference

While the attack is 552 with stone lvl 5
which would be 507 (552/1.6*1.47) if I'm still using lvl 4 attack stone which is 45 points difference

This 45 is just when using the attack alone. to give a better idea lets assume that u use this 45 in bat20+PPP attack. The extra amount of damage will be 134 (45*(1+0.3+0.3+0.3)*1.57) (1.57 is 157% damage for bat lv20) not to mention that u will get back 46 health points extra (134*0.35)

So which would be better? take 17 points less damage each shot or get 134 damage each turn and get back extra 46 health (or each time u use bat20+ppp)?

Personally I think after update 1.4 attack stone is the best for all dragons (since agility stone is almost useless now)

schwag wrote:Thank you both. I went with defense for devil :)
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Kelso17

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Post Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:42 am

Re: Level 5 stones

Kelso

I revised my calculations
Forgot to add the 100% lol
I keep record of devil status
level 33 devil defense with lvl 4 equipped was 187
with lvl 5 should be 203 (187*1.6/1.47)


Im saying agility is useless because although it makes u start first gives your opponent the chance to play twice first if they consume less mana percent and if u have higher agility and dont use any mana they can use full mana and still get a turn by turn game. So it's more of a disadvantage unless you can kill opponent in first shot which is very rare.

Kelso17 wrote:
Mavios wrote:Not trying to be rude on my first post but I think the OP was given the wrong advice and here is why:

My lvl 34 devil got 193 defense with lvl 4 stone
with lvl 5 it will get to 246 (193*.6/0.47) which is only 53 points difference

While the attack is 552 with stone lvl 5
which would be 432 (552/0.6*0.47) if I'm still using lvl 4 attack stone which is 120 points difference

This 120 is just when using the attack alone. to give a better idea lets assume that u use this 120 in bat20+PPP attack. The extra amount of damage will be 354 (120*(1+0.3+0.3+0.3)*1.57) (1.57 is 157% damage for bat lv20) not to mention that u will get back 123 health points (354*0.35)

So which would be better? take 53 points less damage each shot or get 354 damage each turn and get back 123 health (or each time u use bat20+ppp)?

Personally I think after update 1.4 attack stone is the best for all dragons (since agility stone is almost useless now)

schwag wrote:Thank you both. I went with defense for devil :)


Good in theory, but your stats appear to be incorrect if I haven't misunderstood. You said your level 34 Devil would have 432 attack with a level 4 attack stone. My level 33 Devil has a level 4 attack stone and his attack is 494. (We can't compare defense stats because if your attack stat is incorrect, your defense stat might also incorrect, unfortunately.)

But let's continue on using your calculations using my lv33 + 4 attack to your lv34 + 5 attack. A difference of only 58 points (552 vs 494). Using bat20 + PPP the extra amount of damage will be 173 (58*(1+0.3+0.3+0.3)*1.57) giving you back 60 health points (173*0.35)

So which is better? Get an additional 173 damage + 60 health each turn only in situations where bat20 + PPP could be used? Or (if we keep your defense calculations) take 53 points less damage each shot in any situation.

I thought of a couple extra things while writing this.

This is also assuming your attack stone is lv5 and all other stones are lv4 making the attack stone the absolute and only difference when comparing our attacks.

If my Devil was level 34 as well, the difference in attack totals (your 552 vs my 494) would be even less, in turn making the added damage even lesser than the new calculations.

Also, unless level 34 intends to give me +43 pts to my defense total your calculation of 246 might be off making the whole comparison misinformed.

I'd like to know just as well as you what level 5 stone is best through the actual numbers, so let's work on this!

(Also, agility only appears useless to those who cannot utilize going first. But that's just a side opinion on agility stones.)
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Post Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:07 pm

Re: Level 5 stones

schwag is swag
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