Devil Bat

I am really annoyed by devil's bat in pvp now, every time I flame him, he uses his bat and takes off my flame, isnt it good enough that his bat heals him.

His defense is a joke, he needs this advantage.

His defense is a joke, he needs this advantage.

Agreed

Phil you must be kidding! Now that bat removes vine there's only one dragon that can kill devils before curse hits, well probably two but not too many have high lvl bolts, and that's xtal. You know damn well that you can pretty much beat any lava by cursing and then no power or single power shot and wait till curse hits without ever giving lava rage now leshy can't beat devils in pvp either? Wtf? Seems funny that haypi is always nerfing dragons but decided to give devil even more power? It's bad enough when I play devils that miss miss then hit with rage and crit to kill in one shot, so please don't tell me devil need even more power that what it already had

Not entirely sure but I think they intended this to happen with Angelo's heal but accidentally gave it to devil as well?
Leshy can still beat devil easily by hiding (not hard with his size) or by forcing devil to take a double turn.
Despite being a devil user, I agree that killing lava with curse then single shot/hiding is an extremely cheap way of winning and so try to alternate between strategies when against a lava.
He is still weak against Roco though. One stun or crit from rock and its over.

A good shot devil you can not hide from. I don agree bat is over powers I had trouble killing devil with vine. However I don't believe devil got buffed it actually lost some stats right? Key is you have to double turn a devil to win. Leshy got buffed a tad bit not to much so if your a leshy user can't complain to much.

Many times a leshy has walked inside my devil and vined so it's impossible for me to hit them directly and forcing me to fly. Anywhere where your back is covered and there is a low 'roof' is usually safe from bat if the devil isn't very close.
As for devil's stats, he lost 19 attack (lvl 40 oj stone) gained 74 health (oj stone) and 28 defence (purp stone). Not sure what this translates to in pvp other than +44 hp.

Hiding inside of Devil as a leshy is cheap, come on you have to agree...
With Leshy's angle he should not have to hide inside of Devil in order to defeat him.

Leshy hiding "in" a dragon is no less cheap than ice rain through floors. Smyke I meant power up as in they have an added ability, which I don't think is right given devils high attack and health. Yeah you can try and get a double turn but there's two problems with that, first you can't rage a devil and second any devil that can aim will take out most dragons with two full power bats.

I usually do not get the oppertunity to hide in opponets. Id rather bait them into rage anyway. But I'd consider it more now bc a no power vine does nothing bc devil get rid or vine and replace almost if not all the hp I took. Am I just suppost to stand there helplessly? I hate devil bat mostly bc I get 1 shot rage CRT alot and I don't believe lvl should unless it's from naughty(she doesn't hit hard unless iron ball) or double CRT ice block. Id be fine with bat if it was low attack high hp given back or high attack low hp given back like 600 at most on rage attack. But Id be more happy taking a devil rather than a bolt with side damage lol