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Woa333

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Post Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:36 pm

Re: Gender Problem from Breeding

I guess I won't be nominated for expert on server 3 now :cry:
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Lord.Rex

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Post Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:02 pm

Re: Gender Problem from Breeding

like I said ive had my fair share of crappy results from synthesizing and breeding, not all with 1 monster but more with the entire set of them. having said that looking back they all more or less evened out, I wouldn't call it 50/50 but its pretty darn close.
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Woa333

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Post Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:12 pm

Re: Gender Problem from Breeding

Yes Rex but just because it evens out with you doesn't mean it evens out with everyone. Your "bad luck" was 3 or 4 I'm a row? I would love to have your bad luck daily . Your getting what's called "normal" results. I wouldn't be here if I got 7 in a row girls and then 3 in a row then 2 then 1 then 4 and so on. It should be like that, there should be Streaks here and there but 20 in a row is a bug.

And the sad thing is if it does even out i would get all boys and worse problem. In fact if it evened out the odds would get enormously higher if get 17 boys now it would be 132k times 132k so 17.4 million to one chance :o

Also I'm only talking about streaks with nothing in middle. So getting 9 girls then 2 boys then 9 more girls is no where near the odds of getting all same without any.

Just out of curiosity how many in a row is your record. Row means no gaps straight up all boy or girl?
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Lord.Rex

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Post Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:18 pm

Re: Gender Problem from Breeding

lord no my bad luck was I think near 6-7 times. im breeding cursie just to test him out and got about 6-7 males. on the flip side though breeding my flights I don't get any repeats. and im not saying that because mine evened out its all ok, just saying you cant go by just 1 set, in the long run itll even itself out
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Woa333

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Post Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:39 pm

Re: Gender Problem from Breeding

6 or 7 in each direction is not uncommon though Rex. That is normal. 6 in a row is only 1/64 chance so will and should happen frequently. That's not bad luck. That is normal variance. It can't go male female and jump every time. But 1/132,000 is not the same and if my next slider turns out to be female it jumps to 1/264,000. This should not be happening to multiple players. 1/64 should be happening and that is nothing to complain about. You can have over 1000 times 7 In a row over the year and it won't be the same as one time 17 in a row. Though I don't see how you can even breed 7000+ for that to happen.

Evening out girls and boys is not the issue, it's the streak improbability. I could play for a few weeks and that 17 female extra would easily even out but doesn't change the odds of it happening in the first place without any boys in between. You have to remember that getting 0/17 is much less likely than getting 2/50 even though 2/50 seems equally bad. Even having one boy in there decreases odds by a huge amount. If I had gotten 8 girls 2 boys then 8 girls again I would not bother posting anything because it would not be abnormal.
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kleingoku

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Post Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:16 pm

Re: Gender Problem from Breeding

First i Got 12 femal LUpas from synthethizing in a row, so i stopped with lupa. With Flights it went ok until B+ (3female, 1male) and now i got 10 Female in a row.... Just sucks, so far i got 26 female and 1 male... sucks i suppose... And the odds of that is rrrrrrllllllyyyyyyy low

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Woa333

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Post Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:28 pm

Re: Gender Problem from Breeding

So I decided not to waste my breeding/synthesis on anything good till the new update comes out so I breed a funkis today to eventually use for my flaunt when I get 2 of them and it was a girl funkis hahaha

I won't dare use my flaunt scroll for fear it will be yet another girl :(
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Lord.Rex

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Post Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:03 pm

Re: Gender Problem from Breeding

as far as ive heard S2 hasn't been too terrible with this, non too worse than my at least. honestly though id rather them fix the accuracy ratings. I faced a champ today and he dodged 6 water bombs in a row. I did the math twice and it came out to around a .02% chance of that happening, 33% of them just missing 1 time. and this happens all the time against him but other players as well (I swear lupa, blocky, and champ dodges more than any other monster -.-) and it always seem like the lower the accuracy, the more it hits. that same player that dodged 6 of my shots (in the same span of 6 shots) hit 6 of his shots with 80% accuracy. the chance of his 6 attacks hitting consecutively is roughly 40-50% if I had to make a quick estimate. I could figure out the chance of both happening at the same time but thatll just be too much math. point is though things like this shouldn't happen, especially if its based on speed like everyone says.

either way haypi if youre listening please work on your probability ratings. this kinda stuff shouldn't happen (both the breeding and the accuracy)
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Woa333

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Post Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:29 pm

Re: Gender Problem from Breeding

Yes the percentages are off also for seal card catching percentages. A lot of times I fail 4-5 times when it says 65% .

Also would me nice to know odds of poison/burn activating and if using certain monsters increases the odds of them activating though it could just be random regardless.

As for the hit/miss rating. It's possible each monster has a hidden dodge and hit rating meaning each monster is different and some hit more likely and dodge more likely. But maybe they should let us see those stats...

I am also curious how much of an increase moves make. An increase in matk for example, is it a fixed amount or a percentage of your matk rating? Also wondering if the moves stack or not. If you use sewage 3 times I'm assuming it doesn't increase dodge 3 times right? But not sure.
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Lord.Rex

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Post Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:45 pm

Re: Gender Problem from Breeding

I don't catch enough anymore to really speak to that point, though I have heard of people complaining about that. still though something needs to be done or at least show what determines the different ratings like you said
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