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des4r0y3r

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Post Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:56 pm

Re: 33 respins

Like you, I have spent around 300 coins on respins to win an item, Scrap Metal in my case.

However, I do not doubt the integrity of the programming, and I do believe it is all RNG (random number generator). I have landed on the item I wanted,(the best item) on the the first spin many times. Even still, the current system benefits no one.

Maybe, it benefits the company in the short term as some of us spend a ridiculous amount of coins on respins, but that experience leaves a bad taste our mouths, and we won't do it again in the future.

If we could not land on the same item twice, this problem would be eliminated.
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shinjichan

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Post Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:09 am

Re: 33 respins

thanks for the feedbacks im not trying to diss the game, i love it or else i wouldnt be vip 5. Just to share again i just blew all my remaining coins less than 150 and the adv skill chest i wanted i failed to get. The next round i got one chest in one free spin. My point is the algorithm for respinning might be flawed unless they dare to show us the math, i will advise everyone to bycott respins, one good idea which i root for is not to land on the same item on respins.

I'll put data out truthfully and back it up with my own money, im not asking anyone else to be this crazy but i think hyapi monster owes us an explaination, 3 pages and not a mod reply yet wonder why... :)
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kleingoku

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Post Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:15 am

Re: 33 respins

Just respin twice, sometimes you get, sometimes you dont. Try another exp-attempt.
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Post Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:14 pm

Re: 33 respins

kleingoku, I am sure you're not the first to suggest that since I also suggested that before.
However, if people have spare coins for it, let them. The problem is not getting enough value for the coins.
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Marionette

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Post Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:16 pm

Re: 33 respins

Why do you people need the 'math' behind it? There's no 'math' behind it. It's all the coding part that you believe is 'flawed'. Like I said before, the random numbers are the one to blame. If you don't believe me, try it yourself. Go to any random number generator and input the values 1-8 as the limit and try it 10 times, heck no, 50 times. Then you'll see how random random numbers really are. Yet again, you need another set of 50 random numbers so do it again for comparison. You will notice that it is not perfectly the same.

Just a reminder, money doesn't buy everything.
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superfly88_713

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Post Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:11 pm

Re: 33 respins

Marionette wrote:Why do you people need the 'math' behind it? There's no 'math' behind it. It's all the coding part that you believe is 'flawed'. Like I said before, the random numbers are the one to blame. If you don't believe me, try it yourself. Go to any random number generator and input the values 1-8 as the limit and try it 10 times, heck no, 50 times. Then you'll see how random random numbers really are. Yet again, you need another set of 50 random numbers so do it again for comparison. You will notice that it is not perfectly the same.

Just a reminder, money doesn't buy everything.


Your missing the point.
People want disclosure on the probabilities.
Whether each square has equal chance 1 in 8. Prior to spend there money.

Or if its programmed so that the good squares (book chess) has a 1 in 40 chAnce and the crappy squares (jellies) has 1 in 8.1 chance.

Yes your discription of how random generation works is true. However you have absolutely no proof that the haypi system for loot is programmed on random generation.

Nor do the people who say haypi programs it unfairly have proof this is true either.

All ppl are asking is disclosure on how it's program so they can make a concisious decision on whether to spend their money or not. I don't get why this concept of disclosure is so hard for ppl to understand.
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rathalos

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Post Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:44 pm

Re: 33 respins

Marionette wrote:All ppl are asking is disclosure on how it's program so they can make a concisious decision on whether to spend their money or not. I don't get why this concept of disclosure is so hard for ppl to understand.



as much as i understand the frustration of respinning, the chance that they would declosure their program is very slim. as many people have stated before me, i also see respinning as gambling. in a casino you dont get to see the win chances of roulette either.

i myself dont respin, simply because its not worth the money, i dont wanna waste my money in a bottomless pit. just dont respin and boycot it for a while, if they dont earn money anymore that way, they'll start to listen.
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superfly88_713

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Post Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:57 pm

Re: 33 respins

rathalos wrote:
Marionette wrote:All ppl are asking is disclosure on how it's program so they can make a concisious decision on whether to spend their money or not. I don't get why this concept of disclosure is so hard for ppl to understand.



as much as i understand the frustration of respinning, the chance that they would declosure their program is very slim. as many people have stated before me, i also see respinning as gambling. in a casino you dont get to see the win chances of roulette either.

i myself dont respin, simply because its not worth the money, i dont wanna waste my money in a bottomless pit. just dont respin and boycot it for a while, if they dont earn money anymore that way, they'll start to listen.


I don't know what country the casinos ur talking about. But all the casinos in US and Canada legally have to disclose the odds of each game. If you go to gaming services they will provide an odds sheet for you. Some times is on a placard on the table itself

Further more odds of roulette are universally known or can be googled quite easily.
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rathalos

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Post Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:01 pm

Re: 33 respins

also the odds of a slotmachine?
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Post Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:19 pm

Re: 33 respins

junicobakura wrote:Bad Spins
Bad Spins
Bad Spins

I get you man,

I wish that the when respining , it would no longer land on the item that you just landed, because, the reason why we respin is we dont like that item we just landed on, why land on it again?



Really a very good point , who would respin to get the same item...and that will make it more fair to get the item
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