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Ryeballs

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Post Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:56 pm

Re: What is coming ?

Aliza hinted at a change to the Gryphion scroll slot a while ago but wouldn't divulge details.

And I back the keep Neon over Gryph position. Neon's ATK is barely worse than Gryphs, it's MATK is usable and it can learn Aurora Borealis and has 3 solid Talents (Accel, Inval, Adapt) and decent Def.

Gryph has high HP but not enough to really make much of a difference given its DEF, even with Fort-II. Whereas it might survive equally as long against Earth with Fort-II, it can't do as much damage to Earth as a Neon can with Aurora.
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Post Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:16 pm

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Why do you compare an electric to it's weakness rock?? Like are you stupid? Ofc the electric is to a do terrible against a rock. Ffs. Compare Gryphion to a leaf monster something where there's no elemental advantage. Gryphion can one shot any thing with pod and rain prayer, ofc other then weaknesses because you would have to be stupid to compare weaknesses.

That's like saying, "oh Blossom is beast,....... Against non Marty brawny "
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Post Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:25 pm

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Krister_o wrote:Why do you compare an electric to it's weakness rock?? Like are you stupid? Ofc the electric is to a do terrible against a rock. Ffs. Compare Gryphion to a leaf monster something where there's no elemental advantage. Gryphion can one shot any thing with pod and rain prayer, ofc other then weaknesses because you would have to be stupid to compare weaknesses.

That's like saying, "oh Blossom is beast,....... Against non Marty brawny "


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Post Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:17 pm

Re: What is coming ?

Because sometimes you are at an elemental disadvantage, which makes doing as much damage as possible a possibility. I will more often than not kill a non-Ress scythe with my Neon and under similar circumstances my Neon can one shot most of the same monsters a Gryph can.

I'm just saying the difference in power between a Gryph and a Neon will probably be smaller than say a Fire Legendary and Ignightmare/Draconius if the Sphinx is fire and replaces Gryphion. I am explicitly *not* saying Gryphion is a bad monster in any way, they are both very good.

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Found the post where it was suggested something else will occur in the Essence of Beast shop. It's Pizymisa saying Sharon told her, and it can be found here
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Post Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:40 pm

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Ryeballs wrote:Because sometimes you are at an elemental disadvantage, which makes doing as much damage as possible a possibility. I will more often than not kill a non-Ress scythe with my Neon and under similar circumstances my Neon can one shot most of the same monsters a Gryph can.

I'm just saying the difference in power between a Gryph and a Neon will probably be smaller than say a Fire Legendary and Ignightmare/Draconius if the Sphinx is fire and replaces Gryphion. I am explicitly *not* saying Gryphion is a bad monster in any way, they are both very good.

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Fund the post where it was suggested something else will occur in the Essence of Beast shop. It's Pizymisa saying Sharon told her: http://www.haypi.com/forum.../viewtopic ... 40&t=19870

In every scenario griphion wins.
Neon vs sythe neon loses in 2 boulders so does gryph.
The difference is griphion will get to hit twice before it is knocke out.
Gryphon is much better as you outspeed EVERYTHING except chimera.
Besides gryphon can tank out 3 aurora from fenrirs lol that's amazing.
Neon will lose to griphion with any talent in a 1vs1.
Even speed boost because you need two boosts to outspeed gryph last I checked.
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Post Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:43 pm

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LiMoney wrote:In every scenario griphion wins.
Neon vs sythe neon loses in 2 boulders so does gryph.
The difference is griphion will get to hit twice before it is knocke out.
Gryphon is much better as you outspeed EVERYTHING except chimera.
Besides gryphon can tank out 3 aurora from fenrirs lol that's amazing.
Neon will lose to griphion with any talent in a 1vs1.
Even speed boost because you need two boosts to outspeed gryph last I checked.

Few leaks.
From my experiences, both my S Neon and my S Gryphion got 1hit by Boulder.
Ofcourse, Gryphion has the advantage because it can learn Fortitude-II.
Also, a Minotaur on Speed Boost can outrun a Chimera, so it will outrun a Gryphion aswell.
I have no experience with Aurora Borealis + STAB, but I could see how it should be able to survive it.
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Post Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:46 pm

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Koenaj wrote:
LiMoney wrote:In every scenario griphion wins.
Neon vs sythe neon loses in 2 boulders so does gryph.
The difference is griphion will get to hit twice before it is knocke out.
Gryphon is much better as you outspeed EVERYTHING except chimera.
Besides gryphon can tank out 3 aurora from fenrirs lol that's amazing.
Neon will lose to griphion with any talent in a 1vs1.
Even speed boost because you need two boosts to outspeed gryph last I checked.

Few leaks.
From my experiences, both my S Neon and my S Gryphion got 1hit by Boulder.
Ofcourse, Gryphion has the advantage because it can learn Fortitude-II.
Also, a Minotaur on Speed Boost can outrun a Chimera, so it will outrun a Gryphion aswell.
I have no experience with Aurora Borealis + STAB, but I could see how it should be able to survive it.

...my gryphon survives a hit from boulder from sythe and behe alike.
Boulder +2 is when it gets killed
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Post Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:48 pm

Re: What is coming ?

LiMoney wrote:Few leaks.
From my experiences, both my S Neon and my S Gryphion got 1hit by Boulder.
Ofcourse, Gryphion has the advantage because it can learn Fortitude-II.
Also, a Minotaur on Speed Boost can outrun a Chimera, so it will outrun a Gryphion aswell.
I have no experience with Aurora Borealis + STAB, but I could see how it should be able to survive it.

...my gryphon survives a hit from boulder from sythe and behe alike.
Boulder +2 is when it gets killed[/quote]
There might've been some different aspects such as Item equipped and decimal numbers, but I do know for a fact that a Gryph can get 1hit from Boulder+0.
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Post Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:51 pm

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Koenaj wrote:
LiMoney wrote:Few leaks.
From my experiences, both my S Neon and my S Gryphion got 1hit by Boulder.
Ofcourse, Gryphion has the advantage because it can learn Fortitude-II.
Also, a Minotaur on Speed Boost can outrun a Chimera, so it will outrun a Gryphion aswell.
I have no experience with Aurora Borealis + STAB, but I could see how it should be able to survive it.

...my gryphon survives a hit from boulder from sythe and behe alike.
Boulder +2 is when it gets killed

There might've been some different aspects such as Item equipped and decimal numbers, but I do know for a fact that a Gryph can get 1hit from Boulder+0.[/quote]
It was in ladder and the guys I fight use nothing but pure S.
I'm sure it can take two hits as I fight this guy everyday for first in ladder.


Ps: congrats on lord?
That's crazy that your a lord already, I remember when you were a newbie.
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Post Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:53 pm

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LiMoney wrote:It was in ladder and the guys I fight use nothing but pure S.
I'm sure it can take two hits as I fight this guy everyday for first in ladder.


Ps: congrats on lord?
That's crazy that your a lord already, I remember when you were a newbie.

Guess it's just the Server difference then :?:.
And thanks! Yea, I guess a post count of 20.75 posts per day does help :lol:!
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