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Post Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:14 pm

Shrieks Accelerator!?!

I honestly don't know how this hasn't been addressed yet. If it has I apologize, I missed that discussion.

I was doing some numbers and running experiments (like in a lab w/ beakers and schematics >:D mwhahahahaha) ehhmm... related to Shrieks accelerator talent and I was very surprised to learn how much each turn yields.

Ok so I had an A - shrieks stats and compared them with an S Psychoes.
Respectively at A- shrieks speed was 85 putting it somewhere in the ball park of 89-90 @ S.
Psychoe has 116 speed @ S.

1 single turn with accelerator yielded enough gain in speed to go first in the next turn. That's over 25 points in one turn!!! I mean come on!? Doesn't that seem a bit excessive? Neway being unbiased as I have neither monster nor having difficulty defeating shriek I felt I was in a unique position to convey this information to everyone.

What are your thoughts??
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Post Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:20 pm

Re: Shrieks Accelerator!?!

I think it's an interesting talent but in no way game changing. Basically allows you to go first after one or two turns.

If speed affects things like Hit and/or Dodge then there could be some balancing issues. Seems fine the way it is.
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Post Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:26 pm

Re: Shrieks Accelerator!?!

Speed does effect hit rating
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Post Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:41 pm

Re: Shrieks Accelerator!?!

Muskrat wrote:Speed does effect hit rating


How do you know that? My Rhor seemed to miss way more than my other monsters until I got Aim.
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Post Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:21 pm

Re: Shrieks Accelerator!?!

There is a thread discussing it several pages back.

Further this just happened to me in Ladder
I have C Draco w/ Adapt and Fire Blast
& S Purrfection with Mind Bend
Both full health... Both defeated by Shriek with accelerator. Now if that makes a lick of sense I don't know what does.

I other words that scenario is absurd.

So what we do have is this:
1.) Viable Discussion on the correlation of a speed to hit rating ratio and the request to remove this current method and employ a hit rating stat.

2.) An experiment that against all odds I land one attack, after which accelerator is activated followed by miss after miss after miss yadda yadda.

No there is no definitive statement by a moderator saying that these suggestions are fact. That's why I posted it in the suggestions forums and not the Bug Report forum.

I feel there needs to either be more investigating or a statement from the moderators verifying something. But this is just my opinion.

I welcome any responses, especially if u have had experience in the subject.
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Post Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:55 pm

Re: Shrieks Accelerator!?!

A shriek with accel took out 3 of my s lupas
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Post Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:10 am

Re: Shrieks Accelerator!?!

No offense but i think ppl complain about every monster. I do think it would be smarter of haypi to the better abilities to under used or weaker monsters for ex: giving tech II skill to a kangaroo instead of a flight etc etc.

But back to topic shiek's accelerate skill is not a skill that gives disadvantage he is a slow ghost with high MDEF and mediocre Attack power, so that boost makes him a decent member of ya team compared to the overpowered elemental powers and much faster psychics monsters
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Post Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:16 am

Re: Shrieks Accelerator!?!

Hanksta07 wrote:No offense but i think ppl complain about every monster. I do think it would be smarter of haypi to the better abilities to under used or weaker monsters for ex: giving tech II skill to a kangaroo instead of a flight etc etc.

But back to topic shiek's accelerate skill is not a skill that gives disadvantage he is a slow ghost with high MDEF and mediocre Attack power, so that boost makes him a decent member of ya team compared to the overpowered elemental powers and much faster psychics monsters



Naw your missing the point it's aimed at a serious discussion on the effects it has on the game as a whole. It's not negative. Looking for positive feedback from experienced players.
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Post Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:33 am

Re: Shrieks Accelerator!?!

Excuse me, but where is this thread about speed and hit rating. I cannot seem to find it. I personally never found any connection between speed and hit rating.

And Shriek beating three S grade Lupas? That depends on luck, it can't tank that many spirit channels without fortitude, but if it get lucky shadow swipe procs it'll eventually be able to kill Lupas with a single ambush.
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Post Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:23 am

Re: Shrieks Accelerator!?!

Yea, who says speed effects hit rating? My rhor and ig miss more than any other monsters and they have the highest speeds.
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