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CrimsonHarv

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Post Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:46 pm

Flush Talent

On Ladder when meeting a Felicity using Flush talent my monsters will use PoD twice before attacking which is negated both times. Is there a reason the AI is doing this?
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Post Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:59 pm

Re: Flush Talent

CrimsonHarv wrote:On Ladder when meeting a Felicity using Flush talent my monsters will use PoD twice before attacking which is negated both times. Is there a reason the AI is doing this?

I second this.

My monsters use Power of Darkness twice first, before realizing that the opponent's monster has Invalidate/Flush - making it lose 2 turns. Can this be changed? I understand that Invalidate and Flush are counters for Power of Darkness and that monsters with these talents are running rampant right now so I hope that we don't have to change our Power of Darkness skills just so we'll be able to adapt to these.
The monsters should just not cast Power of Darkness at all if the opponent's talent is either of these - a simple if/else statement should suffice (I hope)!

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Post Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:21 am

Re: Flush Talent

i doubt HM would do something abt it...
since AI in ladder only use best skill (Ai think) 1st...

easy way is to breed 2 of each monster type, one with Pod and other without!..
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Post Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:29 am

Re: Flush Talent

+1 no casting if invalidate or flush present

Also make my damn verta cast pod more often. Right noteworthy it cast pod 1 in 50 matches
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CrimsonHarv

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Post Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:54 pm

Re: Flush Talent

I think if you use Flush that the opponent should lose a turn, but two is a bit excessive.
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Post Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:08 pm

Re: Flush Talent

I told many players in my server there overpriced/overrated PODs will become there weakness soon , but no one believe me ... Get penetrate , get new monsters , adapt to changes . Also soon enough there will be more legendary with different talents , and more , and more and we should adapt to this or quit ladder :)
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Post Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:19 pm

Re: Flush Talent

Well, my vertes sometimes casts 4 times pod, be happy about 2 times. lol
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Post Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:26 pm

Re: Flush Talent

valence wrote:I told many players in my server there overpriced/overrated PODs will become there weakness soon , but no one believe me ... Get penetrate , get new monsters , adapt to changes . Also soon enough there will be more legendary with different talents , and more , and more and we should adapt to this or quit ladder :)

Well, players in my server keeps saying that everything you work for during a certain version of the app will be superseded by something by the next version.
I really don't want to accept this.

Besides, Power of Darkness is THE best skill in this game and to counter it like that is just stupid. You work so hard to get the best skill in the game but these 3 talents will literally make you lose the battle - because of the constant PoD casting - and you can't do anything about it. I think not allowing PoD to be casted when these talents are present is already a good counter.
Also, these constant casts just don't make sense. You've already been told you're not allowed to use that skill - why keep using it?
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Post Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:06 am

Re: Flush Talent

Well Penetrate work for invalidate , so u just need something without pod that can beat felicity flush - and that is like a lot of monsters i can pick up ... and about pure talent ... cmon not many monsters with pure atm .
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Post Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:37 pm

Re: Flush Talent

valence wrote:Well Penetrate work for invalidate , so u just need something without pod that can beat felicity flush - and that is like a lot of monsters i can pick up ... and about pure talent ... cmon not many monsters with pure atm .

Not all monsters have Penetrate as talents, in fact, only Flight and Vertedeath do among the epics (as far as I can recall). Therefore, this isn't really a viable option.
I have Power of Darkness on Scythe, Neon, Hippogon, etc. I don't want to remove this move just so I can 'adapt' to the new way of the ladder. I worked hard to get this skill as I was told that it's the best skill in game but if it will literally be the death of pretty much all your monsters because of 3 talents, well, that's just unacceptable. At least if the monsters don't cast PoD, the match will still be okay as my monsters will still use offensive skills - but right now, they just keep using PoD until they die.
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