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Shin-ra

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Post Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:15 pm

Alliance Wars - How pointless is this?

After a few days of playing with alliance wars, both as a vice and as a regular member, I’ve realized that this is completely useless to the game itself. So much time, effort, and money is thrown at alliance wars, however it has no bearing on your individual character.

Honor: This seems rather pointless as Haypi never really explained what this is for. I’ve noticed some of use higher contributors sporadically get a glitchy silver medal next to our name in chat. While I have yet to reach the 15,000 honor mark, as of now, this seems to do nothing.

Mines: It was pretty fun building up the army the first few days and wage constant war. Unfortunately, right now my alliance controls a level 5 mine and has not been seriously attacked in a couple days. It seems as though most alliances have given up as there is no true benefit in spending the coins & resources on this.

Contribution: This is obviously Haypi’s money maker. Contribution points seem to be geared more towards coin-givers as I have donated millions in both resource and money, however one person dropped 1500 coins and he was immediately #1 in contribution. While it is nice to have mass coins for your alliance, he is pretty much untouchable at the top. I’m beginning to believe Haypi is incapable of adding new functions into this game that are not money driven. (i.e. city-dropping, enhancements, alliance wars)

Overall: I can’t imagine when everyone on the forums was clamoring for alliance wars, anyone had “fight over mines” in mind. Most of us wanted to coordinate attacks and defend the other players within the alliance. Either way, I still feel like alliance wars is more of a mini-game within Haypi. Perhaps if the prestige gained from a mine was reflected into each alliance members personal prestige, then capturing and holding a mine would be worth it. In the end, I think Haypi missed the mark on this one.
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Post Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:54 pm

Re: Alliance Wars - How pointless is this?

My alliance leader accidently killed our whole army of troops xD he sent out a letter of apology O.o so it's really fun in that regard
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Post Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:55 pm

Re: Alliance Wars - How pointless is this?

how about you attack other peoples mines... also other alliances will build slower than you but will eventually attack you
how do you let people know if your hot cakes are selling well?

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Shin-ra

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Post Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:32 pm

Re: Alliance Wars - How pointless is this?

I'm more refering to Alliance Wars having no direct benefits to you. Haypi should have found a way to tie all the the effort required in alliance war back to the individual player or some alliance achievement/benefit.
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Taem96

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Post Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:28 am

Re: Alliance Wars - How pointless is this?

Shin-ra wrote:I'm more refering to Alliance Wars having no direct benefits to you. Haypi should have found a way to tie all the the effort required in alliance war back to the individual player or some alliance achievement/benefit.


uuhhhh.... its how you get to the top of the alliance leaderboard. that seems to be all anyone cares about anymore, anyway
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Post Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:02 am

Re: Alliance Wars - How pointless is this?

I'm not saying I love alliance wars, but you shouldn't be looking for your own personal benefit from them... It has been amazing to see my alliance work as a group, constantly filling our warehouse and getting generous donations even from our lower players. However it is pretty ridiculous that the build time is so long if you don't want to spend coins. And attacking other alliances is hardly worth it as you will loose nearly as much even if you have double the army because of the defense-always-attacks-first mechanism along with the worthlessness of cavalry and archers without speed and range bonuses.
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Post Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:44 am

Re: Alliance Wars - How pointless is this?

Haypi just need to generate more profit to fund Haypi Adventure. So yeah...this is about making money because everyone is hunting and hiding, so I can imagine some smart ass thought of the following :

1) Create an arena with insufficient mines to occupy so that alliances are each other's neck for it (made the mistake on the Forts, shouldn't have so many around, ruin profits).
2) Subscribe to the vanity of people for prestige and ranking, change that system so that alliances are re-ranked and have to war to be no.1
3) Subscribe to the pride of people for hating to lose so that they pay coins to build fast for vengence.

Haypi ver4, think they should introduce spells where you may pay with coins and buy banish potions that allows you to banish the entire army of your hated opponents. The right time to start this is when the chat is filled with curses, swearing, threats and hackers attempting to cut each other's throats.
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Oliver.

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Post Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:31 pm

Re: Alliance Wars - How pointless is this?

The problem with attacking other mines is once you control a level 5 you can't unless you are about to give up the mine. If alliances could occupy more than one mine then it would be different, but for now - since there are 6 level 5 mines, unless you have 7 really strong alliances there will never be any war between alliances.

I agree - first few days were fun - now it just feed the troops and nothing else since we have it so well protected that no one even tries to take it from us.
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Shin-ra

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Post Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:25 pm

Re: Alliance Wars - How pointless is this?

MuKu wrote:I'm not saying I love alliance wars, but you shouldn't be looking for your own personal benefit from them


I would disagree on this point. If alliance wars has no real impact on a personal level, then it is more of a mini-game. An alliance who fights hard for the top spot should get some sort of benefit to use as it may encourage more participation.

I find it pretty unfortunate that some players will spend hundreds on coins for alliance wars, however in the end the only benefit is a top spot on the leaderboards. There should always be a tie in back to the actual game.
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Post Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:02 pm

Re: Alliance Wars - How pointless is this?

I'm just curious, but was there EVER Any benefit or gain from being in the number one alliance?
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