Tired of the new Alliance Ranking?

If you are only using the top 300 players technically that isnt the "real" alliance ranking

Im not sure anyone will even take a look at this and care, seeing as nobody goes by these rankings anymore

Check your facts, a lot of people still only care about the true ranking. The mine ranking is irrelevant to normal game play. If your one of those people who turn Haypi into Farmville thereby not being on the pr boards then I can understand why you like the new system. Many of us however, still believe that pr means something in this game, you work hard for it, it's not easy to get and keep. Can you even lose honor points? Yeah, I thought so...

Try posting on your server discussion tab:) those of us not on s80 have no need for this. Also this has nothing to do with the name of the thread it is more of How the s80 alliances look.

Read my discussion portion dude.

If you are only using the top 300 players technically that isnt the "real" alliance ranking

Im not sure anyone will even take a look at this and care, seeing as nobody goes by these rankings anymore

Check your facts, a lot of people still only care about the true ranking. The mine ranking is irrelevant to normal game play. If your one of those people who turn Haypi into Farmville thereby not being on the pr boards then I can understand why you like the new system. Many of us however, still believe that pr means something in this game, you work hard for it, it's not easy to get and keep. Can you even lose honor points? Yeah, I thought so...

Yes a lot of people care about the old rankings. Your post only included the top 300, which means nothing.

Whether you like it or not, the mine ranking has become normal game play.

I hate farmville, my alliance is ranked #4 with mines and would be top 5 with old rank. This new system has caused me to gain approx 20k prestige in the past 3 weeks. I was gaining 40k each day before that, and ive only lost 4 ranks in those 3 weeks. Ive got 6 mil pres, i know a little bit about hard work.

You cant lose honor points, but what does that have to do with your argument.

Ps, this is in the wrong discussion board

I'm not sure you even read my original post. I'd say something sarcastic about your assessment of my report but you'd need to hold a glove above your head to get it.

If you can't take honor points from people then how is it a war? You kill someone off then they just rebuild. Then what do you do with your army? You keep it there. You can't use it in the actual game. It's dumb. For those that agree I was suggesting an alternative. I'm not gonna spend hours and hours keeping my report up to date or add pr that's below 30k. Just an example to show that unlike most of the problems in this game, we don't have to take this one laying down.

And how is this in the wrong discussion board? I'm referring to the broken system, not my server. That report was just an example...I'm sure I said that somewhere...

honor has nothing to do with the game its all about prestige and if you actually realized this you would see that you can lose alliance prestige. And ok thanks your stating your opinion that the mines are dumb. what you can do is take an alliance vote and choose to play the old way. also this is the wrong board seeing as this has no affect to any player out side of s80 if you had posted this in the discussion tab for s80 then it would be in the right place.
Thanks and plz dont bash players on the forums.

No need to get angry guys geez (:

I appreciated this post! Maybe it was in the wrong spot, maybe not. It is here. End of story =D





DONE

I would not have looked in another server's thread and found the concept to be interesting. I'd like to add up my server's list as well to see how close the current and old standards match up, lol. Just for curiosity's sake.

The fact is that alliance prestige is the new alliance ranking system. What you posted is in no way are form the "real" alliance rankings. While shocking it may seem at first, you cant just get alot of high level players into an alliance and be instantly 1st now. The old alliance system focused on the players prestige, in which to get to rank 1 you and your alliance members had to earn there own perstige. Now, the new alliance system focuses on the alliance working together in way.

Its not perfect, but it makes alliances feel a bit more like a team then just a group.

The fact is that alliance prestige is the new alliance ranking system. What you posted is in no way are form the "real" alliance rankings. While shocking it may seem at first, you cant just get alot of high level players into an alliance and be instantly 1st now. The old alliance system focused on the players prestige, in which to get to rank 1 you and your alliance members had to earn there own perstige. Now, the new alliance system focuses on the alliance working together in way.

Its not perfect, but it makes alliances feel a bit more like a team then just a group.

Very true! Sometimes its a little hard letting go though!!

When it comes to war between alliances though, the old alliance rankings can be helpful in knowing what exactly you're taking on.

We almost went to war with another alliance who is ranked below us in the new alliance rankings, but I added up the prestige and they had 19 million, and we had 16 million.

We got crushed!!! (And I lost a juicy coined sub that I stole )

Anyway, the numbers are still useful im someways. Its alot of work though.

Im getting used to the new rankings anyway! Whole new levels of competition!

This thread is entirely well suited for general discussion. Judging by the large numbers of players clamoring over the new alliance rankings, this sheds an alternative (albeit obvious) method for gauging an alliances strength.

All in all, it's something I've been trying to preach since alliance wars was introduced....if you are concerned with individual prestige as an estimate of an alliances rank, a little good old fashioned scouting will clear up your problems easily. Do as math did and manually calculate alliance prestige on your own.

As for whether or not one ranking is better than the other, it's a moot argument. The way it is is the way it is. History shows us that the developers will be fairly steadfast on their decisions, no matter how many complain about it.

What I don't understand is why there are those who argue that there is no real gameplay, prestige, or individual elements in this new system. Quite clearly there are, and many of them as well. It's just that it is a radically new change, and this will always incite people who have become comfortable or complacent with old ways to rebel against the tides.

As we can assess from these forums, haypi is still surviving and thriving, and the dissent is becoming less an less everyday, not to mention new players registering every day who have no idea what the hoopla is even about

So in a nutshell, thanks Matherine, for proposing an easy solution for one of the biggest gripes pertaining to alliance wars, the alliance ranking system.