Mines

Thank-you Ash for putting this post together on a subject that so many of us agree on.
The addition of the mines has taken a once fun,challenging game and made it simplistic and dull. Alliance prestige based on who can spend the most amount of coin the quickest, simply to create the most amount of cats is pointless. Why have the mine battle at all, when the winner is predetermined by the number of cats. As the alliance levels, nothing changes, the alliance army never gains skill, so the battle is always won by numbers not strategy.
The worst feature that the mines create, in my opinion, is the honor ranking system. Suddenly members start comparing their giving styles to others in the clan. They start looking down on those; who they have deemed as useless members, based solely on donations. They are then given medals, because for some reason donating is now a worthy achievement, comparable to the well earned pvp ranking. But for some reason it is only visable on wc, perhaps so the player can still appear as equal to his team mates??
Mines have taken away the teamwork in an alliance, there is no reason left to communicate, each member can donate and leave without saying a word. The members then lay their complete trust in the leaders to make all other decisions. The chat rooms seem all but abandoned at times. Even the focus of which alliance to be in has changed, no need to look at who is helpful, friendly, strong ... no its all about who gives.
For you new players, who dont know the game as it was played before; imagine an evening of play where your ac is full of people; the prepared plans of attack shared, each player posed with the coordinates of their attacks. The tension, the excitement, the victory shared. Even the loses are easier to handle with the encouragement of the team. You're working together against a common enemy; strategy, intrigue and the potential of espionage are the addictive qualities that keep you craving more.

include me as agreed to this petition, delete the mines

Zayin (s83) aka (~)zaz.z (s113)

I agree with this post. I have been a vice in charge of mines in all my servers. But it got old fast. I gave up my vice spots and stop playing in most of my servers. If something isn't done soon I'll leave haypi for good

haypi adds game features and you get mad you do know if you dont like the mines ignore it! if a alliance diss you cuz you have no alli pp smash them in a old style war but i see no point you get mad when they ADD stuff to the game lol the pokemon fans did you get mad when they added the contest feature to the game? they didnt change anything at all but the rank system (i like the old system better tho) also the donations also let you see who is active in your alliance now so if anything it helps alliances.s58 has alot of ppl who play solo pvp and the alliance mine and we are content i dont see a single person from there sighn this. so dont get mad they added new game play elements to a free game i didnt this update take a year to develop and this is the thanks you show how ungratefull!

I sign this with no regret!!!! Way to go Haypi, your greed for money has ruined a great game.Not only has mine battle and rank ruin the game but your consisnent denial of glitches and bugs that cost players their troops, time and money has caused many good players to quit. You have received your last penny you'll get out of me. Big thumbs down to your crap updates

Dur

For you new players, who dont know the game as it was played before; imagine an evening of play where your ac is full of people; the prepared plans of attack shared, each player posed with the coordinates of their attacks. The tension, the excitement, the victory shared. Even the loses are easier to handle with the encouragement of the team. You're working together against a common enemy; strategy, intrigue and the potential of espionage are the addictive qualities that keep you craving more.

include me as agreed to this petition, delete the mines

Zayin (s83) aka (~)zaz.z (s113)

Hey Z!! Thank you so much for your support. I agree with everything you said. It's like the worse you are the better you are praised on haypi now. You can't and don't know how to build and make a real army so you give everything you have away so that someone else can do it for you.
You are completely right about the AC. Dead dead dead dead. I remember when I first started (NOT THAT LONG AGO!!!). AC was fun and crazy I couldn't get a word in. I would laugh at the people for being up at all hours of the night to feed their troops. Our team used to have "hunting parties" or a hunting mint where like 10-15 or more people on the alliance would scout and hand our big hits to other members on the team or they would be like "who can handle this one I'm getting this one" people would make like 120k pp a night easily if not more. Now if you find 500 cav it's like a buffet. I had note books filled with coords. I haven't scouted since the mines.
I am on 10 servers!!! I have been vice on every account I play actively. I know what I'm saying when I say mines have killed that AC and teamwork like that! I'm lucky if some one answers hi on my AC. Or if they do it's because they are passing through and write oh hey 30-40 minutes later. Dead, dead, dead, dead. This is not the haypi I had fun playing.
Ash

haypi adds game features and you get mad you do know if you dont like the mines ignore it! if a alliance diss you cuz you have no alli pp smash them in a old style war but i see no point you get mad when they ADD stuff to the game lol the pokemon fans did you get mad when they added the contest feature to the game? they didnt change anything at all but the rank system (i like the old system better tho) also the donations also let you see who is active in your alliance now so if anything it helps alliances.s58 has alot of ppl who play solo pvp and the alliance mine and we are content i dont see a single person from there sighn this. so dont get mad they added new game play elements to a free game i didnt this update take a year to develop and this is the thanks you show how ungratefull!

You are not reading the posts or you would have had this explained. You can't ignore it!! People are donating everything they have and have abandon the original side of the game. The game is split in two. So people that got into mimes donate so much that they can't build up on their own or get burn out trying to support both armies. That both sides eventually become boring. Maybe 10 to 15 people on e server have an army that is even worth trying to get. The overall experience of the game isn't there anymore. It's just simply not fun. And both sides are suffering.

This thread is a joke. All you cats from s113 complaining about mines taking away from pvp are kidding yourselves.

For real, think logically for a moment here....

I just logged on to s113 and you know what I saw? I see 4 UNOCUPIED lv5 mines. Additionally, the alliance prestige leaders are very low and a huge gap lies in between the top alliances and the rest of the top 10. Coupled with all the naysayers on this thread, it is clear to me that most s113 alliances are not actively participating in mine wars.

This being the case, I am forced to scratch my head and wonder, 'well if these generals are not pursuing alliance mines, and they're not using resources to build troops, what the heck are they doing?'

What reasons could you possibly have for blaming mine for you ineffective scouting, when it's clearly evident that most people aren't even playing alliance wars?

Additionally, I have an account in the alliance "PRIMETIME" on that server. That alliance actively decided to NOT participate in alliance mines and for some odd reason, I am constantly seeing my alliance mates posting Coords for pres hits in ac. I see no lack of activity in my ac or wc, and Rax, you should know this considering how hothanded you are with the mute hammer.

Ever since the first day this expansion was released, players have been complaining that it has "ruined haypi" or that it "detracts from gameplay" yet I have yet to see any evidence of this. Nor do I understand how it could possibly affect peoples personal armies. No one has EVER given any shred of evidence of people quitting en masse, or a slowdown in personal pres gain.

On any server I play, I have no problems finding troops to kill, or cities to steal. I suggest rather than pining for change, you should be the change. How about you start by building your own army, then encourage others to do the same.

Something tells me, judging by the overwhelming amount of support you have from the s113 populace on this thread, that you would have as much success petitioning your fellow players to continue building their own armies as you would with a petition such as this. In fact, I can almost guarantee that alliance wars isn't going away, so you're likely better off following my advice.

In the meantime, don't respond to this post with talk of the alliance prestige system being messed up. That has nothing to do with your issues, which have been reiterated time and again here.....that people have stopped building troops to pursue the welfare of their alliance troops. This is simply preposterous, and it only sounds like children whining, not warlords such as you are.

Agreed. For being an alliance leader, I've had members start to quit because of the mines! Out of my 46 members, I'm only left with less than 15 of them being active daily! They were all active before the updated version came out. The mine idea was very fun and interesting for it's first few months, but people have stopped purchasing coins and playing because of it. Removing the mines will give the game back more popularity and will become a hit again!

David5960

Agreed. For being an alliance leader, I've had members start to quit because of the mines! Out of my 46 members, I'm only left with less than 15 of them being active daily! They were all active before the updated version came out. The mine idea was very fun and interesting for it's first few months, but people have stopped purchasing coins and playing because of it. Removing the mines will give the game back more popularity and will become a hit again!

David5960

So if I can get this straight, because 31 of your alliance members all quit because of This update, it's Representative of the fact that the vast majority of the hundreds of thousands of haypi players are quitting as well?

Not only is this a brazen misrepresentation of the facts, but I think a more accurate assessment of your alliance situation is that they were all weak minded, simple and above all else, quitters!

What basis do you possibly have to make these assumptions....that people have stopped buying coin and stopped playing? This is ridiculous and simply not true...haypi remains as popular as ever and remains a top grossing app p this day.

People!!! Stop assuming things and making yourselves appear foolish!

I am not sure about the mines. Are they being used much in my server, no. Would people want to get rid of it, possibly. But has it made my AC less or more active, absolutely not.
Servers are just slowing down like most do when they mature. And possibly that is the reason for most people's slower AC. I cant trace it back to mines for sure.

But one question I do have for Taem is, how are you feeding that massive an alliance army with your (assuming here) equally voracious personal army. The two biggest alliance armies on our server score at 100k+ cats which is a minimum consumption of a mil per hr. I could fill up the warehouse with a couple of mil at max but most player in my alliance are either feeding heavily or cant farm as much quantity as I can. To me that is crop I could be saving for hours I can not farm but now its going to alliance. Or better yet, selling it since the crop is high priced commodity.