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Mavios

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Post Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:46 pm

Re: Level 5 stones

Ok first let me explain few things
first when I say agility is useless I meant before update 1.4 it was one of the most important because it gives you the advantage of starting first so you always would have the edge to kill your opponent first. Now its for sure not the best and thats what this post is about anyway. An example is leshy vs crystal same level update 1.3. If leshy starts first will finish almost any opponent in two tuns and in this case crystal got no chance because of low health. However if crystal starts first that would be a different matter and crystal would have the edge over leshy.

When you say agility didn't give you a disadvantage... I think you are wrong. The disadvantage is using zero mana = less attack damage. So if you go against a higher level dragon or a strong dragon (just like what happened when we met in pvp) the other dragon can do damage just enough not get you into rage in first turn and because the other dragon is higher level it would easily take damage from your dragon in two turns and can finish you in the second turn. It would be harder for the higher dragon to make the kill if they start first as they have to stick to zero mana strategy to survive while the other dragon can throw at them anything they want in first turn. So agility lvl 5 for dragon lvl 40? yes but by the time you get to lvl 40 you got probably more than one lvl 5 stone. For a lower dragon? no or at least not the first lvl 5 stone.

You can't just assume your opponent don't understand how pvp works and hope to win. It just doesn't work this way mate. (especially after that post the you did about pvp lol)

I still think attack lv 5 stone is the best as i showed in my calculations and it made me reach branch 36 in the tree easily with lvl 34 devil and beat lvl 40 crystals with full orange stones in pvp easily and it still would be the best for all other dragons as in update 1.4 all dragons except angelo got over 100% damage ability (bat for devil, ice cube for crystal, vine for leshy and rock for roco) not sure about lava though

Kelso17 wrote:It's easy to see that a new player who doesn't understand the system will use full power and attempt to one shot their opponent, ending horribly with a loss thanks to being outsmarted by their opponent with two turns in a row.

The strategy behind going first is to use zero mana, weakening your opponent without giving them rage. They can only hit you once in return and this is where you actually hope they use full power (giving you rage) which allows you to finish them off next turn. The onus is on the second shooter to survive 2 hits (one with rage) in order to have a chance at winning.

Lv5 agility has never given me an outstanding disadvantage in PvP.
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Kelso17

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Post Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:41 pm

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Bullhead81

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Post Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:58 am

Re: Level 5 stones

Is there a complete breakdown on what each level 5 stone adds to a dragon from level 4 stone?

Such as

Level 4 atttack to Level 5 adds x% or x(amount).
level 4 defense to level 5 adds x% or (amount).

Also I read lvl 4 Power stone says 4% but is 12% really,
What would a power 5 be 15%? per shot?

That could be used on all dragons. Im sure stats are somewhere but Im gettin lazy in old age.

Thanks guys for previous info

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Mavios

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Post Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:23 am

Re: Level 5 stones

Bullhead81 wrote:Also I read lvl 4 Power stone says 4% but is 12% really,
What would a power 5 be 15%? per shot?


Power stone 5 is 5%
it means if you have power lv 20 which is maxed at 30% will be 35% with power stone lv 5

So when you use triple power your attack will increase by (1+0.35+0.35+0.35) which is 2.05% and 2.02%, 1.99%, 1.96% and 1.93% for stone level 4,3,2 and 1 respectively

So for each 100 points of attack on your dragon a level 5 power will increase triple power attack for normal shot by 15 points and if you use an ability then you need to multiply that number by the ability attack percentage like the 157% for bat lv 20 mentioned earlier

Since you already have power stone lv 3 we can do an easy test if you post your attack number and do level 1-1 with normal shot, normal + power and get the attack that that appears on the screen without the crit. Then I will be able to show you how to calculate that

PS: the enemy on level 1-1 got a defense that varies from 6 to 15 points (still haven't figured out why)
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Aerodent

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Post Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:41 pm

Re: Level 5 stones

Mavios wrote:
Bullhead81 wrote:Also I read lvl 4 Power stone says 4% but is 12% really,
What would a power 5 be 15%? per shot?


Power stone 5 is 5%
it means if you have power lv 20 which is maxed at 30% will be 35% with power stone lv 5

So when you use triple power your attack will increase by (1+0.35+0.35+0.35) which is 2.05% and 2.02%, 1.99%, 1.96% and 1.93% for stone level 4,3,2 and 1 respectively

So for each 100 points of attack on your dragon a level 5 power will increase triple power attack for normal shot by 15 points and if you use an ability then you need to multiply that number by the ability attack percentage like the 157% for bat lv 20 mentioned earlier

Since you already have power stone lv 3 we can do an easy test if you post your attack number and do level 1-1 with normal shot, normal + power and get the attack that that appears on the screen without the crit. Then I will be able to show you how to calculate that

PS: the enemy on level 1-1 got a defense that varies from 6 to 15 points (still haven't figured out why)


The power stone 5 is 5% is a lie lol.
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