The Ultimate PVP Guide 1.4

Double turn is a joke.. Example played today.

I lvl 40 xtal 7 oj 1 purp vs bullwinkle lava ..

Im first and I did ice block . Bull got double, did fire first than was raged and finished me off with qs!

My 1 turn to bull's 2? Total joke of pvp and a waste of time to play. If they r trying to balance pvp. Chg health amount. If I have a stronger dragon than tough luck to who vs me as a lower. It's what the games about . Grind or die! Don't go to a gun fight w a knife and get padded pitty play cuz of being lower!

So you basically u ignored what is in this guide which I'm sure you read few times by now and went for a full power or similar ice cube u gave ur opponent rage and double turns got urself killed by someone lower than u and now complaining?

Well if you don't want to change your strategy you will lose for sure plain and simple haypi got nothing to do with it

No ... I'm being forced as a highest player possible basically to always play my first move no power! And then the second lower player has options ? And they rage in their second shot of the double turn.. I'm not raging them. and YES they r getting double turns on my no power!!!

The lowers love it , it's almost auto getting doubles more than once too. Anyone of us who is full oj lvl 40 are not loving it.

Every match I go in ..I have to play it same my one shot !? If I get a crap spot in map I'm forced to fly in , oh well I'm screwed? BottOm line it's not even. I'd like to play options first round depending on map not same move cuz of this twisted mana crap Because we worked harder. The options should be ours.

It should be aim, strategy of using various items we have avail to us , and how well we play maps.. It's Not strategy to try and avoid giving double turns .. Forcing me to play no power which isn't 100% effective, regardless of what some of u say. I've confirmed it w many others like me.

I spent my time grinding to get to where I am, you can do the same!

No ... I'm being forced as a highest player possible basically to always play my first move no power! And then the second lower player has options ? And they rage in their second shot of the double turn.. I'm not raging them. and YES they r getting double turns on my no power!!!

That's weird, I haven't met such situation before. May be its a glitch just do some screen shots showing ur mana is still full and send it to support see what is there reply and may be post it here too

I wounder if this is related to the mana boost that some people experience in pvp

One more thing to add is that you only need to consume 13 mana points for a lava with orange agility to get double turns using no mana against crystal or 44 mana if they have purple agility

The part about all of this that frustrates me the most is that the person who goes second has all the power. The person who goes first has to use no mana to avoid giving up a double turn, then the second can use full power and all their mana freely and everything just resets next round. The higher agility player has to worry about giving up a double turn, while the other player can do whatever he wants. The player who goes second can control the match and that is why these high level players with good stones are upset that weaker players with lower agility are beating them.

The part about all of this that frustrates me the most is that the person who goes second has all the power. The person who goes first has to use no mana to avoid giving up a double turn, then the second can use full power and all their mana freely and everything just resets next round. The higher agility player has to worry about giving up a double turn, while the other player can do whatever he wants. The player who goes second can control the match and that is why these high level players with good stones are upset that weaker players with lower agility are beating them.

I totally agree with you, honestly if agility stone is just made to control the amount of mana consumed while walking and the system just pick a side randomly to start first we would be much better off

I totally agree with you, honestly if agility stone is just made to control the amount of mana consumed while walking and the system just pick a side randomly to start first we would be much better off

This could be a good idea, and also maybe the stones embedded in the eighth slot(power, qs, volley stones) could decrease mana usage as well as doing what they do now. Ex. level 5 power stone brings power 20 down from 60 mana to say 55, so that a player with that stone embedded could use three powers and still have higher mana percentage remaining. I know this causes problems also, as with 55 mana used you can do 4x power, but maybe that could just be an advantage for high level players who put in the time to get the 8th stone. I don't know just throwing ideas out to try to fix this mess lol.

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Thank You Kelso for reposing