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Lord.Rex

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Post Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:43 pm

Re: Nerf Lupa

hes just a mutt-lover who thinks using lupa means hes good. ignore him. as for the actual discussion I still say lupa needs a nerf. muskrat was riht about one thing, lupa is the most balanced but that's actually the problem. hes rare, not epic, and has no evolutions as he said, and yet hes automatically better than any epic monster? there isn't a single other monster that is as balanced as lupa is and THAT is what makes him unfair. a balanced monster versus an unbalanced monster is an unfair fight, unless the unbalanced monster is really damn good and the player using it is really damn good than the balanced one wins everytime. something needs to be done to unbalance him or make another monster that is more like him in stats.
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Woa333

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Post Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:25 pm

Re: Nerf Lupa

Yes facing a team of 4 Lupa's is ridiculous... And team could be made easily... He isn't as rare as I would like and without any evolutions I don't see why he would be so strong... That's one of the reasons I skipped him when I first started, I assumed monsters that evolve twice are better?!

Perhaps they should make it so you can't use more than 2 of the same monsters in ladder. Using same 4 monsters of anything is stale and not strategic. The same problem will happen in the future with other monsters that are over powered, eventually everyone will use 4 of the same monsters when they see which one is best. This makes for bad gameplay experience.

Personally I don't think every monster should be allowed to use every move. Lupa is deadly enough without having poison petals on top of it. Different monsters should have unique moves that put them apart. Or else there is no point using any element type that isn't epic in most cases...

Like cursie for example if they made his "curse" move a unique skill only to him people would have to get him to use that move but why use a weak common when you can put the move on kreepie.
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Marionette

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Post Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:51 pm

Re: Nerf Lupa

Great... More and more people are breeding Lupas in my server. If this continues I'll be out of the leaderboards in no time. Sad to say but if Lupa is not nerfed by the next update, I will consider leaving the game. I did not pay for vip just so that even non-vips can beat me with only 2 Lupa.
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Lord.Rex

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Post Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:20 pm

Re: Nerf Lupa

I have a b+ cursie that kicks butt lol. kreepie has really low defense compared to him sadly enough. but yea I like the 2 monsters per team idea. I have a 4 flight team but ill happily bring that to 2 flights and 2 champs lol
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schwag

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Post Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:57 pm

Re: Nerf Lupa

Lupa doesn't need to be nerfed. He's a rare so he's supposed to be stronger than any common or uncommon monsters. And he's psychic, which is a strong type to begin with, so he should be the best of the rares. And he is. And that's it. He won't beat epic monsters of the same rank as long as they have a good skill set. Only about 4-5 people in the top 25 of the ladder on s1 use a lupa at all, and I can only think of one person who uses 2. The only people who use 4 lupa teams are back in the 100's in ladder. Lupa is a great versatile monster to help pass levels but he isnt dominant.
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Grivlet

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Post Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:59 pm

Re: Nerf Lupa

Again I'll restat, you aren't looking for the right monsters then. Being an avid Lupa user, he isn't as strong as you make him (or her ;) ) out to be. Yes in ladder when you have a team full of C and lower monsters, of course Lupa is going to dominate them especially if it is an S rank. However, as of right now I can think of at least two relatively easy monsters to obtain that provide a thorn in lupas side. Instead of whining about the monster being OP try breeding up something for a good counter. Its honestly complaints like this that ends up ruining games because 'this needs nerfed, that needs buffed' crap. Play the game and find better monsters.

And on the note that 'blessing and sacrifice aren't available to non-coiners' then wait for the update. Till then please stop whining.

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Lord.Rex

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Post Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:38 pm

Re: Nerf Lupa

Grivlet wrote:Again I'll restat, you aren't looking for the right monsters then. Being an avid Lupa user, he isn't as strong as you make him (or her ;) ) out to be. Yes in ladder when you have a team full of C and lower monsters, of course Lupa is going to dominate them especially if it is an S rank. However, as of right now I can think of at least two relatively easy monsters to obtain that provide a thorn in lupas side. Instead of whining about the monster being OP try breeding up something for a good counter. Its honestly complaints like this that ends up ruining games because 'this needs nerfed, that needs buffed' crap. Play the game and find better monsters.

And on the note that 'blessing and sacrifice aren't available to non-coiners' then wait for the update. Till then please stop whining.

Thanks


for your information I DO have something that can beat him, overpowered doesn't mean invincible. having said that the amount of time and effort (and money ;) ) put into those monsters are at least twice what lupa requires and even then its not always an easy win. he IS overpowered and the fact that youre a lupa user just shows you cant look at things from an objective standpoint. ill be the first to admit my team is op and in fact I HAVE admitted it on the forums several times. you just have your head so far up that mutt's rear end you cant see how wrong you actually are.

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Grivlet

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Post Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:12 pm

Re: Nerf Lupa

Lord.Rex wrote:
Grivlet wrote:Again I'll restat, you aren't looking for the right monsters then. Being an avid Lupa user, he isn't as strong as you make him (or her ;) ) out to be. Yes in ladder when you have a team full of C and lower monsters, of course Lupa is going to dominate them especially if it is an S rank. However, as of right now I can think of at least two relatively easy monsters to obtain that provide a thorn in lupas side. Instead of whining about the monster being OP try breeding up something for a good counter. Its honestly complaints like this that ends up ruining games because 'this needs nerfed, that needs buffed' crap. Play the game and find better monsters.

And on the note that 'blessing and sacrifice aren't available to non-coiners' then wait for the update. Till then please stop whining.

Thanks



for your information I DO have something that can beat him, overpowered doesn't mean invincible. having said that the amount of time and effort (and money ;) ) put into those monsters are at least twice what lupa requires and even then its not always an easy win. he IS overpowered and the fact that youre a lupa user just shows you cant look at things from an objective standpoint. ill be the first to admit my team is op and in fact I HAVE admitted it on the forums several times. you just have your head so far up that mutt's rear end you cant see how wrong you actually are.

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Instead of trying to troll how about rereading my post. And if it wasn't clear enough for you, I'll gladly restat everything.

1) Lupa was put in the game for a GREAT early to mid game monster. No one can argue this.

2) As you have stated, Lupa ISN'T the best monster (which I agree-hmm contradicts your theory eh?). There are considerably better monsters that require more effort to obtain thus back to point 1 in that it is a good early to mid game monster.

3) If you know anything about balancing, you know that in the long run Lupa is to non-coiners what Angelo eventually will be for those of us that do coin. Keeps the playing level somewhat fair.

So before you start trolling me, take a step back and actually look at the game, what's going to be happening in the next 3-6 months with it, and then try to assess what is OP and what isn't. Thus my statement that its crap like this that ruins good games. You change one thing, something else becomes OP.

Oh and it's hypocritical to say one monster is OP and then follow it up with oh but my full team of flights are OP. I agree flight is strong but not unbeatable just as Lupa isn't unbeatable. Anything else I can help you with by all means.
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Muskrat

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Post Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:15 pm

Re: Nerf Lupa

Some more facts so we can leave pride and emotion out of the equation.

1.) I have 1 batte ready Lupa grade B- lvl 34.... It doesn't possess any of the magnificent powers that have been boldly asserted all over this forum.
2.) I'm fairly certain you flaunt(no pun intended) that fact of harvesting a Flight army which in all rights are guilty of the same accusations you protest aganist Lupa.
3.) If my tone in this post has offended you I wonder how your tone in your competition entry may have offended others. When boldly codemning them for posting guides to the game. Of course I'm sure you didn't stop to think that the subject of guides was mentioned in the rules as a totally valid subject to write about. Hmm if I seem a bit hostile you have assumed correct this time. Because I don't like you, or more specifically many of things I have read that you say in this forum. Deal with it.
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Grivlet

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Post Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:16 pm

Re: Nerf Lupa

And to your point that I essentially have Lupa on my mind, I run all champ and am working on all flight teams. So before you start casting stones try to get your info right.
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