PETITION: Nerf Lupa ASAP

If you claim S-Lupas are OP, you didn't meet 4 S-Flights with: Soak, frenzied attack, Power of Darkness and a 90 Dmg-Skill of any Element i suppose ? In Ladder, one of These monsters killed my Draconius, smiter, pegway and meniss all lvl 40.... So, let the Lupas be.

no way a monster with power of darkness, a healing move, and a high power move is strong? oh my god thank you for telling me that I never knew.

dude just shut up. yea, a flight with those move are op. you know what lupa needs to be op?
1) spirit channel
2) *optional* meditation

that's it. 1 move, 2 to really over do it. youre an idiot to say that a monster with advanced buff and high power moves automatically makes lupa not op. of course that's going to win he can heal a third of his health and increase all of his stats in one turn, ANY monster will be op with that you utter fool. how about forming just ONE argument that actually proves you can form an intelligent thought?

Lupa loses to epic monsters. It's the strongest rare or below but that's it. And stop with this "epics are too hard to get compared to lupa" crap because that's the point, he's supposed to be hard to beat. Lupa dominates the lower tiers until you get epic monsters at which point he's barely a challenge.

Sure, sure say that epic monsters are generally better than Lupa. I will not deny that. However most epic monsters have an elementsl weakness, unlike a Lupa, and you cannot say that ghost is a weakness-its more like an advantage to Lupa. And, in younger servers, where only ten or so players have cleared SS, Lupa is disgustingly dominant. There is a big time gap from clearing volcano and clearing sealed space. What, in that large time gap, options do most players have to counter Lupa? Draconius? Oh, sure, then the Lupa is a grade A or S and Lupa proceeds to kill Draconius.

Um nothing? People who have just cleared volcano should not be competing with those who have finished sealed space. And yes most epic monsters do have an elemental weakness, what do you want a perfect epic monster with no weaknesses? (Enter flight debate lol)

I have a new element to add to the argument lol ... Lupa is indeed a strong monster but i would not say he op but rather other monsters are UP. I personally am a fan of Def over offense but i haven't found a true tank monster, one with high Hp Def and Mdef

Um nothing? People who have just cleared volcano should not be competing with those who have finished sealed space. And yes most epic monsters do have an elemental weakness, what do you want a perfect epic monster with no weaknesses? (Enter flight debate lol)

What I meant was those that haven't completed SS have just about no counter to Lupa. Sure, after sealed space, you can counter it but the time period between destroyed by a Lupa and countering it is huge. And don't say,"Oh, but Lupa is suppose be really good in early-mid parts of the game!" Yeah, that's true. But it's still too strong early, being completely dominant and having no counter available for some time, it really isn't healthy for a game's health.

I have a new element to add to the argument lol ... Lupa is indeed a strong monster but i would not say he op but rather other monsters are UP. I personally am a fan of Def over offense but i haven't found a true tank monster, one with high Hp Def and Mdef

Good point. I've always been more drawn to high speed/high attack monsters with low defense myself, but it doesn't hurt to have a tank as well. Especially for people like you who prefer that type. I think that's what they had in mind for champ but his mdef isn't too great. Maybe they could boost that a little and drop his attack to compensate.

Um nothing? People who have just cleared volcano should not be competing with those who have finished sealed space. And yes most epic monsters do have an elemental weakness, what do you want a perfect epic monster with no weaknesses? (Enter flight debate lol)

What I meant was those that haven't completed SS have just about no counter to Lupa. Sure, after sealed space, you can counter it but the time period between destroyed by a Lupa and countering it is huge. And don't say,"Oh, but Lupa is suppose be really good in early-mid parts of the game!" Yeah, that's true. But it's still too strong early, being completely dominant and having no counter available for some time, it really isn't healthy for a game's health.

But what I'm saying is that they shouldn't have a counter to lupa. You can't expect to be a low level new to the game and be able to counter people who have put much more time and effort in until you do so yourself. And just to prove a point, on s1 we had someone reach the top ten of the ladder without VIP and with no lupas, back before most people got epics and lupa was the dominant monster. So it can be done.

But what I'm saying is that they shouldn't have a counter to lupa. You can't expect to be a low level new to the game and be able to counter people who have put much more time and effort in until you do so yourself. And just to prove a point, on s1 we had someone reach the top ten of the ladder without VIP and with no lupas, back before most people got epics and lupa was the dominant monster. So it can be done.

Meh, exactly. I've put so much effort in the game yet even non-vip's can bea me because of Lupa. Your argument is invalid. Also, I have reigned over the ladder tournament for about 2 weeks or so without vip as well. Guess what, Lupa showed up then I became 2nd for the rest of my time in HM. I was even forced to buy vip so that I can theoretically compete with a team of Lupas but nothing changed, all I got were gold coins and I remained on 2nd spot. A few days back, people have been using double Lupas too and again, I was pushed back to 7th. I have all my monsters at lv.40, at least 3 of them are epic but they're no match against Lupa. I know their classes are low but as I said in the first post, not everyone has the time and money to breed higher class monsters.

If you haven't bred your monsters then you can't expect to compete with high rank monsters either. It goes back to the time and money thing (though this time it's in-game money), those who put more time and money in will get ahead. My A- lupa gets destroyed in ladder against epics, I can't wait to replace him. And to all of you, no offense but if your ladder even at the top is being dominated by lupas then your server is extremely weak.

If you haven't bred your monsters then you can't expect to compete with high rank monsters either. It goes back to the time and money thing (though this time it's in-game money), those who put more time and money in will get ahead. My A- lupa gets destroyed in ladder against epics, I can't wait to replace him. And to all of you, no offense but if your ladder even at the top is being dominated by lupas then your server is extremely weak.

This. X10000000

I did say for younger servers that Lupa is a larger problem. And why shouldn't there be a counter available to low levels for Lupa? Sure people who spend time into the game should have a foot ahead but, at that point in the game, monsters that you can go ahead and breed still going to be destroyed by an equal or lower grade Lupa.

Because it's very early in the game. Lupa is the best non epic monster, so you should need epics to beat it. You shouldn't be able to just find some random monster that can beat lupa and therefore compete with epics at such an early stage of the game. I wouldn't say lupa is a problem on younger servers because at some point every server was young and now the older ones have moved past the lupa stage. Eventually the new servers will too. The point of the game is progression, you need to keep moving forward and getting better to be good at it. So if there's no lupa forcing people to get epics to win, then why would people waste their time advancing in the game? Half of the people here aren't even asking for lupa to be nerfed, they just want even stronger monsters to beat him as soon as they start playing.