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superfly88_713

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Post Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:03 pm

Re: 33 respins

superfly88_713 wrote:
Marionette wrote:There's not really a problem with respins. Just to share, I'm currently taking a programming course and we often implement random generated numbers. Let's say that each spin is limited to 10-100 spins before it stops, there's a lot of possibilities that the number generated will be a multiple of 8 (same spot in the wheel) and there's also a big chance of not getting your desired number. So if there's anyone to blame, that would be the random generators.


That's based on the premises of you trusting their company assigned equal probability to landing on each of the 8 squares. Based on everything I've seen so of far and how similar things are happening to a large number of people, I highly doubt some of these so called "chance things" are programmed fairly.

Satistically if one outcome kept occurring over and over again to a broad number of people, that would suggest the probability assigned to that certain outcome is higher.


If they have nothing to hide and everything is fair why won't they disclose the math behind it. Like certain other big mmo " world of.....,"
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Post Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:49 pm

Re: 33 respins

So you basically spent 30 bucks to tell us random numbers are random?
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Post Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:56 pm

Re: 33 respins

Kaloth wrote:So you basically spent 30 bucks to tell us random numbers are random?


can't you read more carefully?

his point is that " the chance of landing on that skill book is intentionally designed to be smaller compared to all the other trash on the wheel."
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Post Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:57 pm

Re: 33 respins

Most people dont get the idea, random is not truly random, yet im agree they set up another algorithm to disrupt the natural chances are, they wont disclose the math, what you need to understand, when you respin you gamble against the house with their made up rules, which not really into your favour, before you gamble, think of haypi is business in its core. Its about profit and others are just supporting variables.
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pizymisa

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Post Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:59 pm

Re: 33 respins

chesaki wrote:Most people dont get the idea, random is not truly random, yet im agree they set up another algorithm to disrupt the natural chances are, they wont disclose the math, what you need to understand, when you respin you gamble against the house with their made up rules, which not really into your favour, before you gamble, think of haypi is business in its core. Its about profit and others are just supporting variables.


respin is like a gamble, i think the best strategy is not to fall in their trap, don't respin.

If you play this game long enough, eventually, you will get what you want.
what's the hurry> it;'s just a app game to kill time
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Post Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:17 pm

Re: 33 respins

pizymisa wrote:
chesaki wrote:Most people dont get the idea, random is not truly random, yet im agree they set up another algorithm to disrupt the natural chances are, they wont disclose the math, what you need to understand, when you respin you gamble against the house with their made up rules, which not really into your favour, before you gamble, think of haypi is business in its core. Its about profit and others are just supporting variables.


respin is like a gamble, i think the best strategy is not to fall in their trap, don't respin.

If you play this game long enough, eventually, you will get what you want.
what's the hurry> it;'s just a app game to kill time

I think some people are too competitive for that, pizy! xD

I will make another thread in the suggestions section about the idea of not landing on the same spot in the wheel twice.
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Post Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:24 pm

Re: 33 respins

pizymisa wrote:
Kaloth wrote:So you basically spent 30 bucks to tell us random numbers are random?


can't you read more carefully?

his point is that " the chance of landing on that skill book is intentionally designed to be smaller compared to all the other trash on the wheel."


I used respin last night got the chest I wanted after 1 spin. Trust me it's not intentional.
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Post Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:31 pm

Re: 33 respins

I actually agree. It's NOT intentional.
It is just random. The code for a random number generator is very short and I feel that that is all they did for this - generate a random number from 1-8 and whichever one is generated is the one we land on.
This is coming from my own experiences since I landed on the item I wanted on the wheel a few more times in the first go than what the probability should have awarded me.
It is just random but I really do feel that this will be solved if we just implemented the 'no landing on the same spot' idea.
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superfly88_713

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Post Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:33 pm

Re: 33 respins

chesaki wrote:Most people dont get the idea, random is not truly random, yet im agree they set up another algorithm to disrupt the natural chances are, they wont disclose the math, what you need to understand, when you respin you gamble against the house with their made up rules, which not really into your favour, before you gamble, think of haypi is business in its core. Its about profit and others are just supporting variables.


They should disclose those rates then. Like a casino discloses the odds for every game / bet. So the gambler (respiner) can make concisious decision on whether to respin or not. Rather then leading them to believe the chances are 1/8
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Post Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:37 pm

Re: 33 respins

Also I like lexoph idea of not relanding one same spot. That will cap it to a max of 6 bucks. Which is very profitable for a mystery skill book
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