Increase limit on daily max boss essence

Version 1.4.1 proposes to limit daily max essence to 10 a day. Most people don't even come close to 10 a day so they're not affected, but it is severely unfair to players who genuinely invite many pals.

I've gone through the effort to gather 30+ pals (n.b. i did not make 30 alts, nor would have the patience to hunt bosses on many alts anyways), why are players like me discriminated against when we promote HM?

Suggestion: raise limit to, a more acceptable 20 essence a day, or better, scrap the entire idea.

People who don't have many pal connections will flame this suggestion, please refrain.

edit (additional point):
1.4.1 makes it less attractive to make benefit from alts by raising the reward book from level 12 to 15 already.
The other benefit of alts (finding bosses) does not get exploited because finding a boss takes hours in the first place. Finding bosses on a few accounts can easily take up a whole day, therefore this 'limit' doesn't effectively target people with many alts.

Did it ever occur to you that haypi is doing these things specifically because of alt abusers? They limited the number of pvp matches you can play with your alts, they raised the book award level as you said, and then they set the essence limit. You may be a fair player but others aren't, and unfortunately the only way to stop them is to punish, for lack of a better term, the other players. It's a sad reality but it's also the only way to stop them

At least you can still get lots of Xp from those bosses.

I agree with what Lord.Rex said. There needs to be a way to prevent this system from being abused and this is the best way to do that.

With regards to you having a number of Pals, I don't want to sound rude but who would you get more than 10 essences from 30+ Pals? I think it would be better if you let them kill their bosses so they get the essences. If you kill all of their bosses every time, they get just 1 essence. As you said, the bosses are hard to find so it's unlikely the majority of these players will always have a boss.
This might just be an initial reaction from the reduction and I'm sure you will be fine with it afterwards.
I don't think players are rushing to get bosses every day so it shouldn't be a problem, especially that most of the prizes available in this feature may be bought with Honor points as well.

Did it ever occur to you that haypi is doing these things specifically because of alt abusers?

That intention is obvious. However the method is not appropriate. A better solution would be to flag up devices which have alts that all refer from the same person, for review.

Furthermore if you read my post carefully you'll should note my point: alt abusers can't massively farm boss essence in the first place. Let me break it down for you:

1. Finding bosses takes a long time, can even take up to several hours.

2. Finding bosses on 3-5 devices already takes up 24 hours. That realistically gives 10 essence a day. Therefore the limit does not stop normal abusers.

3. By the same logic, people with 5+ alts do not get a proportionate amount of essence in a day: there is not enough time within 24 hours to find a boss on every account.

4. However people with genuine pals do actually find more than the normal alt abuser. Therefore these are the general people affected by the limit. Especially on Saturdays and Sundays, I easily find bosses from most of my pals (and not so much during weekdays).

who would you get more than 10 essences from 30+ Pals? I think it would be better if you let them kill their bosses so they get the essences.

That is your personal opinion. I think of it as saving them many hours of effort. When they level up enough to the point that my lineup does not kill the boss, I let them kill it, and only take the essence for most damage. The decision to un-pal also lies with them if they don't like the arrangement.

I don't think players are rushing to get bosses every day so it shouldn't be a problem, especially that most of the prizes available in this feature may be bought with Honor points as well.

This is precisely the problem. On weekdays most people don't play often so bosses from pals don't show up. On weekends everyone plays, so it is easy to surpass the limit of 10.

who would you get more than 10 essences from 30+ Pals? I think it would be better if you let them kill their bosses so they get the essences.

That is your personal opinion. I think of it as saving them many hours of effort. When they level up enough to the point that my lineup does not kill the boss, I let them kill it, and only take the essence for most damage. The decision to un-pal also lies with them if they don't like the arrangement.

I don't think players are rushing to get bosses every day so it shouldn't be a problem, especially that most of the prizes available in this feature may be bought with Honor points as well.

This is precisely the problem. On weekdays most people don't play often so bosses from pals don't show up. On weekends everyone plays, so it is easy to surpass the limit of 10.

Well, it is morally justifiable to not defeat your pals' bosses and subsequently take most of their essences unless they always give you permission to.
However, I take your point that it is part of the game and the delete button is there if they get annoyed by it too much.

Abusers don't necessarily need the whole 24 hours to get the bosses. There are players who received Gryphion within a week of it coming out. This certainly suggests that it doesn't take that long for some players.

They are not able to check each account and their pals as that will be an extremely tedious process and they don't have enough manpower. If there are other ways that you think will prevent the abusers, which won't require them to keep monitoring accounts or working on this specific problem constantly, I think it will be a good idea to send them an e-mail.

You have quite a lot of pals so I'm assuming that you already have Gryphion and possibly a second one for breeding. Therefore, if you are solely going for the other prizes, I suggest that you just transfer your efforts into PvP. It will take more work but it will be a solution to the problem as I don't think they will raise the cap any time soon.

There definitely are players who have a lot of proper pals, not just side accounts but I am guessing that the amount of players who actually get way too many bosses from their numerous pals is miniscule. This is largely overshadowed by the abusers.

I take your point that some of what I say is from my personal opinion. However, seeing as you're the only one having problems with this (as far as I know), it doesn't seem likely that they will modify this cap.

Did it ever occur to you that haypi is doing these things specifically because of alt abusers?

That intention is obvious. However the method is not appropriate. A better solution would be to flag up devices which have alts that all refer from the same person, for review.

Furthermore if you read my post carefully you'll should note my point: alt abusers can't massively farm boss essence in the first place. Let me break it down for you:

1. Finding bosses takes a long time, can even take up to several hours.

2. Finding bosses on 3-5 devices already takes up 24 hours. That realistically gives 10 essence a day. Therefore the limit does not stop normal abusers.

3. By the same logic, people with 5+ alts do not get a proportionate amount of essence in a day: there is not enough time within 24 hours to find a boss on every account.

4. However people with genuine pals do actually find more than the normal alt abuser. Therefore these are the general people affected by the limit. Especially on Saturdays and Sundays, I easily find bosses from most of my pals (and not so much during weekdays).

who would you get more than 10 essences from 30+ Pals? I think it would be better if you let them kill their bosses so they get the essences.

That is your personal opinion. I think of it as saving them many hours of effort. When they level up enough to the point that my lineup does not kill the boss, I let them kill it, and only take the essence for most damage. The decision to un-pal also lies with them if they don't like the arrangement.

I don't think players are rushing to get bosses every day so it shouldn't be a problem, especially that most of the prizes available in this feature may be bought with Honor points as well.

This is precisely the problem. On weekdays most people don't play often so bosses from pals don't show up. On weekends everyone plays, so it is easy to surpass the limit of 10.

I only used my main and 1 alt I was leveling up for my fiancé and had at least a boss a day to fight and in many cases 2, and that was with me not trying to find them. If I used all 6 of my alts connected to my main and just played from jungle to SS (canyon on the accounts I'm not at SS with that I never really play). It doesn't take long. It's really not hard to get essence especially for people who use pals. This has to happen to prevent further abuse

who would you get more than 10 essences from 30+ Pals? I think it would be better if you let them kill their bosses so they get the essences.

That is your personal opinion. I think of it as saving them many hours of effort. When they level up enough to the point that my lineup does not kill the boss, I let them kill it, and only take the essence for most damage. The decision to un-pal also lies with them if they don't like the arrangement.

I don't think players are rushing to get bosses every day so it shouldn't be a problem, especially that most of the prizes available in this feature may be bought with Honor points as well.

This is precisely the problem. On weekdays most people don't play often so bosses from pals don't show up. On weekends everyone plays, so it is easy to surpass the limit of 10.

Well, it is morally justifiable to not defeat your pals' bosses and subsequently take most of their essences unless they always give you permission to.
However, I take your point that it is part of the game and the delete button is there if they get annoyed by it too much.

Abusers don't necessarily need the whole 24 hours to get the bosses. There are players who received Gryphion within a week of it coming out. This certainly suggests that it doesn't take that long for some players.

They are not able to check each account and their pals as that will be an extremely tedious process and they don't have enough manpower. If there are other ways that you think will prevent the abusers, which won't require them to keep monitoring accounts or working on this specific problem constantly, I think it will be a good idea to send them an e-mail.

You have quite a lot of pals so I'm assuming that you already have Gryphion and possibly a second one for breeding. Therefore, if you are solely going for the other prizes, I suggest that you just transfer your efforts into PvP. It will take more work but it will be a solution to the problem as I don't think they will raise the cap any time soon.

There definitely are players who have a lot of proper pals, not just side accounts but I am guessing that the amount of players who actually get way too many bosses from their numerous pals is miniscule. This is largely overshadowed by the abusers.

I take your point that some of what I say is from my personal opinion. However, seeing as you're the only one having problems with this (as far as I know), it doesn't seem likely that they will modify this cap.

Lex， new players can't kill the bosses by themselves, they need help,

And, I'm not gonna comment on the topic. No opinion

I have to disagree with that. The low level bosses have 500 health, I think that's a pretty reasonable amount for beginner players to handle.

I have to disagree with that. The low level bosses have 500 health, I think that's a pretty reasonable amount for beginner players to handle.

Yeah, I think so. Maybe just at the beginning ,
If they play often, they can lv up fast.

Well, maybe just a little help at the beginning. That's reasonable .