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Post Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:37 pm

How much does the Power of Darkness enhance?

Has anyone tested how much it actually enhances your abilities?
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Post Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:26 pm

Re: How much does the Power of Darkness enhance?

hmm good question but I think it's something around 30-50% increase
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Post Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:35 pm

Re: How much does the Power of Darkness enhance?

It's like all buffs at once. It's more 50% per buff so make the calculation. Sucks it can be stacked..
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Post Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:19 am

Re: How much does the Power of Darkness enhance?

I tested it today , it increases the MATK by 30%(possibly 35% , but I think it's 30%). So I believe it increases all the other stats by 30%.
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Post Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:49 pm

Re: How much does the Power of Darkness enhance?

Keep in mind PoD increases stats, not damage directly. Meaning since we don't know how the damage calculation works, even if you are doing 30% more damage that likely doesn't translate into a direct 30% boost to stats.

I can tell you a skills Power affects damage more than their stats do though.
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Post Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:02 pm

Re: How much does the Power of Darkness enhance?

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Ryeballs wrote:Keep in mind PoD increases stats, not damage directly. Meaning since we don't know how the damage calculation works, even if you are doing 30% more damage that likely doesn't translate into a direct 30% boost to stats.

I can tell you a skills Power affects damage more than their stats do though.


Those stats are what affect damage... therefore, it is logical to concluded that the effects shown by the damage. For instance original damage being 'x', after the stat increase: 1.3x (a 30% increase in damage). So why would damage increase by a 1.3 multiple? Well, it would be reasonable to assume that the stat (lets say MATK, which controls the magical attack levels) has been boosted by the same rate of 1.3. THIS INCLUDES THE DAMAGE OF THE ATTACK, OTHERWISE IT WOULD NOT BE AS CONSISTENT AS IT IS.

Consider the damage of the attack to be directly added into the respective strength stat of the monster, then multiply it. Otherwise different moves would have different rates of increase.

And to address this specifically:
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Ryeballs wrote:Meaning since we don't know how the damage calculation works...


Logically, if each of the moves' power added onto the stats make the consistent increase rate, we can use this as a reverse proof to explain the how the damage calculations work themselves. So here it is:

(ATK OR MATK stat + DAMAGE VALUE of the move itself)*stat buffs/debuffs



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Post Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:12 pm

Re: How much does the Power of Darkness enhance?

Casually wandering forums again :lol:!
Anyhow, I think I can give you an answer regarding to this.

I have noticed that, lets use some random numbers for example; a monster with 100 ATK uses Poison Leaves on a monster with 50 DEF. The opponents HP went from 150 to 103. Which is 47 damage.
The next turn, the exact same conditions are met, but this time, only 45 damage is dealt.
In this situation, there were no external factors that could lead to damage decreasement, no weather, no buffs, no nothing. Because of this, I think the damage you deal is dealt in tiers, not in damage.

e.g :
When you use Poison Leaves, there's a 100% chance to deal tier X damage, being 48 to 44 damage. There is a 15% chance of dealing 48 damage, 25% chance of dealing 47 damage, 30% chance of dealing 46 damage, 20% chance of dealing 45 damage and 10% chance of dealing 44 damage.

This makes me believe that was Ryeballs said is somewhat true, altough there is obviously a percentage of extra damage you deal after casting PoD. That actual number can't be given to the exact number, but I believe it's somewhat around 43.5%, based on tests ran in the previous Haypi Monsters.

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Post Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:34 pm

Re: How much does the Power of Darkness enhance?

Koenaj wrote:Casually wandering forums again :lol:!
Anyhow, I think I can give you an answer regarding to this.

I have noticed that, lets use some random numbers for example; a monster with 100 ATK uses Poison Leaves on a monster with 50 DEF. The opponents HP went from 150 to 103. Which is 47 damage.
The next turn, the exact same conditions are met, but this time, only 45 damage is dealt.
In this situation, there were no external factors that could lead to damage decreasement, no weather, no buffs, no nothing. Because of this, I think the damage you deal is dealt in tiers, not in damage.

e.g :
When you use Poison Leaves, there's a 100% chance to deal tier X damage, being 48 to 44 damage. There is a 15% chance of dealing 48 damage, 25% chance of dealing 47 damage, 30% chance of dealing 46 damage, 20% chance of dealing 45 damage and 10% chance of dealing 44 damage.

This makes me believe that was Ryeballs said is somewhat true, altough there is obviously a percentage of extra damage you deal after casting PoD. That actual number can't be given to the exact number, but I believe it's somewhat around 43.5%, based on tests ran in the previous Haypi Monsters.

Hurr durr


o nice job Koenaj!
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:58 pm

Re: How much does the Power of Darkness enhance?

ohai Koenaj.
possible explanation
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:25 pm

Re: How much does the Power of Darkness enhance?

I've tested it and I can say I think it's about a 40%-45% increase in all stats.
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