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Dreamwizrd

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Post Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:17 pm

Re: Gold chest contents

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Well they have been in the market for about 3 days with no interest at 500k

I read a thread about crown prices, what can they be sold at?

Selling crowns at NPC prices gives 100k

thats 200k for 20 coins.

reources are set at a ratio of about 3 in new worlds.

Thats 66k res for 20 coins, when you can get 60k with 3 coins.

I dont know how common crowns are in gold chests, but getting 2 in a row is quite funny.

Lv0 with 2 crowns.

:)

What shooting tech will i need to take out 500 cats with 50 cats?
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Post Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:29 pm

Re: Gold chest contents

Believe you me, those resource prices will go down, down, down! That's the dilemma of being a new general to the game on a new server, tou have no frame of reference for the mechanics of the game in the long run. Be patient and you'll be better off for it! If your market prices for resources are at 3.00, it must be a brand new server. In a week or two, that price will drop to around .35, mark my words.

Now, with superior shooting tech, 50 cats can take 500 cats with careful maneuvering. To tell you exactly how to do it, I'd need to know your opponents speed rating, but as a rule of thumb, you'll need to move your cats forward as far as you can while staying out of range of the enemy, and before he gets you in his range, you'll need to start moving your cats backwards. Each turn, you will kill somewhere between 30-50 of his cats I bet, so it will be tough, and take you at least 10 turns, but with the right commanding, it can be done.
Tbh, my advice would be to build more cats though, before attempting to take out 500 with 50

Also, lv0 with 2 crowns is a very lucky thing to be! Use this time not to build your army, but to take advantage of those HIGH market prices! At this point in your servers life, you will be much more powerful by upgrading your techs than you would be with a huge army. Sell your resources at a high price and use the profits for upgrading tech. When the market prices drop, then you begin to build an army and any resources you need to buy will be much cheaper at that point.

Rome wasn't built in a day, as they say, but I guarantee Romulus and Remus had a ton of money :lol:

Edit: I'd like to point out....if resources are at 3.00, it would be much more difficult to sell one lot of 10000 resources for $30k than it would be to sell 100 lots of 100 resources for $300 a piece.
There are many low level generals who don't have that kind of money or the space to buy so many resources at one time. Everyone jumps at the chance to spend $300 on some wood or iron though, cuz everyone gets to a point where they need to use the market.
Will it take more time to sell 100 lots than 1 lot? Maybe or maybe not. You could get lucky and sell the $30k one quicker, but I doubt it. Likely you will sell the $300 lots much quicker and though it requires more work on your end, it will yield better reward than posting a large lot. Every ha_a player in the game needs to buy resources in the market to complete a task and they will not want to spend all their money doing it....meaning they will jump at the chance to buy your small lots
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Post Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:52 pm

Re: Gold chest contents

Well taking into account he is rank 2 i wouldnt be surprised that he has lv15 equipment all max enchanted.

I could have 50 crowns, it not going to make me any better of at this stage, other than if I managed to sell my crowns and then upgrade tech.

How much can crowns cost maximun price?
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Post Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:00 pm

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Max price for a crown is $1,000,000

Yes you are correct in thinking that he has likely maxxed his tech and equipment. Here is a player, ranked 2, that likely understands the concepts of this game.

Instead of attacking him, set your sights on other generals who probably haven't raised their techs and equipment so much. He is but one general out of thousands!

And again, you are off base in your line of thinking. I would gladly take 50 crowns over 500 coins any day of the week.
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Post Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:50 pm

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50 crowns is definately better than 500 coins, i would still take 50 crowns if you offered me 1000 coins, i could make a killing, sort out the market and do all the things ive ever wanted to do on the game, conduct ridiculous amounts of research into the game, but for now ill make do with what i can get
how do you let people know if your hot cakes are selling well?

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Post Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:59 pm

Re: Gold chest contents

I said if I had 50 crowns it wouldn't help me much. But I guess I'm wrong. As with that amount of crowns I cold sell at npc and buy res.

But 2 crowns is no use as buying res at a 3:1 ratio is bad even if you have 200k
but if you had 1mil then it might be worth buying res.
But no one wants to buy them.

20 coins is better than 2 crowns for me in my situation.

If I had 50 crowns I could just sell them to npc as I needed them.

I wonder what the chances of getting a gold box 2/3 daily gifts and crowns in both.
I hear people with 10 gold boxes from hunts
I wonder if someone has like 100 boxes to open. If so make the stats. %s how much. Average. Ect.
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Post Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:41 am

Re: Gold chest contents

You really are missing my point.....

Listen, you keep talking about how you have some ratio that's making crowns not as valuable as spending a coin on 20k resources. This mentality is dangerous for your wallet and false.

If in fact, by some means you would stand to get more value from resources for 20 coins than you would 2 crowns for 20 coins, I can guarantee you it will not be that way in a few days. If you are serious about playing this game and competing with others, you should expect to invest at least 6 months into this game. With that in mind, it should now be clear that your neighbor who is rank 2 will be planning to spend that time as well. This means if you sent him a letter telling him that you will sell him 1 crown for $500k he will see that down the line it is in his best interests to buy it. I have never known a serious general to turn down a half price crown.
Sure, no ones gonna need that crown for two months or more, but the guy who will need it already knows he's gonna need it eventually and will not turn down your offer. I promise you this!
So he can't afford it? Fine! Offer it to the number 3 ranked general, or the number 1 rank. Or anyone on the first page of the rankings......you will have no problem finding buyers for your crowns. There are definitely people who will have $500k.....even at this point in the game. After all, you said that you're sure that your neighbor had max equipment and tech.....well you'd be interested to know that he spent major bucks to get that, well over $1,000,000.
Anyway.....if you are on s50, contact me there and I'll gladly buy your crowns!

Edit: btw.....no one has ever cracked the hunting formula as far as I know, and I'm sure it's been changed anyway with this latest update, as the developers themselves have said publicly that it is a formula that they are always modifying, so it's likely that we may never know the ACTUAL way that harvest results are calculated.
As for the percentage rates of gold/silver box contents.....I think the important thing to remember is that people have been pulling crowns and scepters out of them left and right.....you pulled 2 crowns and I have pulled 3 crowns and 7 scepters. Others have been telling me that they have had similar results. I think that just knowing this clearly illustrates the value of these boxes!
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Post Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:19 am

Re: Gold chest contents

Not a good start. First gold chest I get, And I get a nugget :(
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Post Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:55 am

Re: Gold chest contents

I am on S50, but i was talking about S53.

My crowns have not sold in about 5 days at 500k. they are now at 450k as people keep putting their crowns in lower than mine, lol

but no one is buying.

BP is still up on S53.

you should expect to invest at least 6 months into this game. With that in mind, it should now be clear that your neighbor who is rank 2 will be planning to spend that time as well.


It took me 4 days of playing before hand to hold rank 4 position for about a week, in a new server sometimes going up to rank 1.

But after my 30 coins ran out i just slipped away, there is no point trying to be up there, the faster you rank up early the harder it is later on if you dont have the coins behind you to keep you up there.

Im sure that there is not a thing that i dont know that someone who has been playing 6 months knows over me.
Other than maybe his battle experiance is better, meaning that there is a chance that he might pull off some strategy that i dont know how to react to.
I mean combat experiance not actual moving of troops between cities.
Unless that person has studied all the stats of the game. But thats more general knowledge rather than game knowledge. Just becuase he knows the formula for calculating pres gained when a lv 9 attacks a lv6 and kills 100 cats doesnt mean he knows more than me in game.


But my point is 2 crowns are uselss to me, i would have still rather had the 80k money and kept the 20 coins.

But even with that there is no way i can stand up to him.

If someone offered me a crown if i was rank 2 i would know he is just trying to get protection, especially if he is right next to me.
I would attack him as i know he is scared and so knows i have more troops than him.

if he is producing 1k an hour, so thats total of 4k res an hour.
2 months you said...

Thats a total of 5,760,000 resources.

at a ratio of 0.5 thats still 2,880,000 money.
Which is more than 500k, which means its better to turn him into a farm.

so... 5.7 million resources or a crown?


But what i personally would do is say i will take both crowns off you for 500k, he sells both crowns, wait about a week, then turn him into a farm when he has more troops so more pres. and producing say 2k res an hour, so total of 8k.

so 2 months minus 7 days...
thats 10.176 million res, and you get the crowns.

No contest, this game is too unballanced to people who spend more money on coins.

There is no way that i am going to mail him. My best bet is just to stay lv0 hope he never sees me as a threat or someone worth farming and attacking., never rank up until i can get to lv10 when i just start a new world.

Where something similar will happen... eventually.

Its not like these people are desprate for resources, its almost like it isnt really part of the game for them. As they just use coins.

He is occupying a lv4 oasis, yet he is lv 10.
I scouted him, he has 300-400k of each resource.
Note:BP is still on.

Its stupid the amont of resources people can get.


So as a rule, i think its always best to go for the NPC trade in, as you need coins more, unless you have alot of coins, in which case open them.
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Post Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:32 pm

Re: Gold chest contents

Well I suppose you have it all figured out then.

Your logic is askew, and your calculations pertaining to him farming you are absurd, but hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion!
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